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Andrew edited comment on KAFKA-8315 at 5/2/19 4:27 PM: ------------------------------------------------------- Ok, thanks. However, I thought retention period was meant to be independent of grace period, like it is for grouped aggregations? I can see from the code though that the retention is explicitly set to the grace period. {Code} @SuppressWarnings("deprecation") // continuing to support Windows#maintainMs/segmentInterval in fallback mode private static <K, V> StoreBuilder<WindowStore<K, V>> joinWindowStoreBuilder(final String joinName, final JoinWindows windows, final Serde<K> keySerde, final Serde<V> valueSerde) { return Stores.windowStoreBuilder( Stores.persistentWindowStore( joinName + "-store", Duration.ofMillis(windows.size() + windows.gracePeriodMs()), <------------------------ Duration.ofMillis(windows.size()), true ), keySerde, valueSerde ); } {Code} so it looks like the grace period defines the retention period... was (Author: the4thamigo_uk): Ok, thanks. However, I thought retention period was meant to be independent of grace period, like it is for grouped aggregations? I can see from the code though that the retention is explicitly set to the grace period. \{Code} @SuppressWarnings("deprecation") // continuing to support Windows#maintainMs/segmentInterval in fallback mode private static <K, V> StoreBuilder<WindowStore<K, V>> joinWindowStoreBuilder(final String joinName, final JoinWindows windows, final Serde<K> keySerde, final Serde<V> valueSerde) { return Stores.windowStoreBuilder( Stores.persistentWindowStore( joinName + "-store", Duration.ofMillis(windows.size() + windows.gracePeriodMs()), <------------------------ Duration.ofMillis(windows.size()), true ), keySerde, valueSerde ); } {Code} Andy Smith [1 minute ago] so it looks like the grace period defines the retention period... > Cannot pass Materialized into a join operation > ---------------------------------------------- > > Key: KAFKA-8315 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-8315 > Project: Kafka > Issue Type: Bug > Reporter: Andrew > Assignee: John Roesler > Priority: Major > > The documentation says to use `Materialized` not `JoinWindows.until()` > (https://kafka.apache.org/22/javadoc/org/apache/kafka/streams/kstream/JoinWindows.html#until-long-), > but there is no where to pass a `Materialized` instance to the join > operation, only to the group operation is supported it seems. > > Slack conversation here : > https://confluentcommunity.slack.com/archives/C48AHTCUQ/p1556799561287300 -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005)