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Justine Olshan commented on KAFKA-12457: ---------------------------------------- Thanks for creating this JIRA. There is some discussion on sentinel topic IDs in KIP-516 as well, but it has been a while since we discussed this. I think the original plan was to use the sentinel ID as a sort of bootstrap for Vote requests and then to generate a unique topic ID for the metadata topic. Very much open to discussion and potential changes though. [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-516%3A+Topic+Identifiers#KIP516:TopicIdentifiers-CompatibilitywithKIP-500] > Implications of KIP-516 for quorum controller > --------------------------------------------- > > Key: KAFKA-12457 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12457 > Project: Kafka > Issue Type: Improvement > Reporter: Jason Gustafson > Priority: Major > Labels: kip-500 > > KIP-516 introduces topic IDs to Kafka. We are in the process of updating many > of the protocols to support them. In most cases, we are dropping the topic > name entirely from new API versions. I think there are two open questions for > KIP-500 in regard to this: > 1. Can we assume topic ID existence in KIP-500? > I think the answer here is yes, and the existing code already assumes it. The > nice thing is that KIP-516 brings with it the logic to create topic IDs for > existing topics. We can rely on this ability in the bridge release to ensure > that all topics have topic IDs. And we can add it to pre-upgrade validations. > 2. What topic ID should be used for `@metadata`? > There are basically two options for this: either use a sentinel topic ID or > let the controller generate a new one and write it into a `TopicRecord` when > the cluster first initializes. If we assume long term that we won't be able > to use topic names in the inter-broker protocol, then a sentinel might really > be a necessity since brokers would need to know the topic ID before they can > send fetches. In other words, if we generate a unique ID, then we probably > still need some sentinel so that followers can fetch the initial > `TopicRecord` which contains the ID. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005)