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Guozhang Wang commented on KAFKA-12776:
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I think KIP-739 is relatively orthogonal to the scenario we just described 
here..

The reason Kafka does not try to enforce ordering at the gate of `send` call is 
that, in practice there are many other factors that can cause out-of-order. 
Note that even in telecom scenarios, from the time an HTTP request gets 
received and to the time `producer.send` is triggered, there could also be 
skewness between threads, such that a request arrives first but ended up 
calling `producer.send` second compared to another.

> Producer sends messages out-of-order inspite of enabling idempotence
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>
>                 Key: KAFKA-12776
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12776
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: producer 
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.0, 2.7.0
>         Environment: Linux RHEL 7.9 and Ubuntu 20.04
>            Reporter: NEERAJ VAIDYA
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: mocker.zip
>
>
> I have an Apache Kafka 2.6 Producer which writes to topic-A (TA). 
> My application is basically a Spring boot web-application which accepts JSON 
> payloads via HTTP and then pushes each to a Kafka topic. I also use Spring 
> Cloud Stream Kafka in the application to create and use a Producer.
> For one of my failure handling test cases, I shutdown the Kafka cluster while 
> my applications are running. (Note : No messages have been published to the 
> Kafka cluster before I stop the cluster)
> When the producer application tries to write messages to TA, it cannot 
> because the cluster is down and hence (I assume) buffers the messages. Let's 
> say it receives 4 messages m1,m2,m3,m4 in increasing time order. (i.e. m1 is 
> first and m4 is last).
> When I bring the Kafka cluster back online, the producer sends the buffered 
> messages to the topic, but they are not in order. I receive for example, m2 
> then m3 then m1 and then m4.
> Why is that ? Is it because the buffering in the producer is multi-threaded 
> with each producing to the topic at the same time ?
> My project code is attached herewith.
> I can confirm that I have enabled idempotence. I have also tried with 
> ```max.in.flight.requests=1```



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