In my particular case, it's a generalize tool that can be used as a monitor daemon or 
regression/stress testing. big brother seems to be focused on site monitoring and it 
costs money. Although JMeter could go that direction in terms of monitoring, that 
isn't my goal personally.
 
since I'm a developer, I care more about having nightly builds with regression/stress 
testing. the monitoring from my experience tends to go with custom solutions for a 
couple of reasons.
 
1. there might be things you want to monitor which a package like BB won't record.
2. in a complex deployment, there are numerous processes which need to be monitored 
and those results should generate a report
3. for site that are Application Service Providers, there are Service Level Agreements 
(SLA's) that have to be met. Often the that means a monitor that understand different 
levels of warning generated by the application. Say for example your app already sends 
logs to a specific directory. You would need to write a plugin for BB to monitor and 
filter the input to the log file.
 
Big brother has lot of good stuff, but there are situations where you will still need 
to write lots of plugins to cover the level of monitoring required. Of course being 
open source, some could always write it and contribute it to apache :)
 
peter
 
 


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Not wanting to rain on anyone's parade, but what sort of functionality are
you after? Have you considered something like big brother
(http://bb4.com/) which already does this sort of thing?

cheers
dim





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seems to be what i am thinking about and as you said you go further...

i need less flexibility but perhaps a bit easier monitoring interface (our
operators should be able to see the status of all applications just
looking over one view [they would do that whenever an email or other
notification launched by the console tells them there is anything they
need to take care about])

if you create a monitoring solution for tomcat i might be able to
customize it (web interface would be perfect for access from everywhere of
course) to suit exactly my needs easyly and just add some alerters

think we should stay in touch - perhaps i can contribute something to what
you need




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I'm actually working on a jmeter monitor for Tomcat. So far I've been
focusing on Tomcat, since well I use Tomcat. Mike and I have been
discussing this for a couple weeks now and I'm also talking to remy about
providing support in Tomcat to facilitate this.

my plans so far is this.

1. update the new TC5 status servlet to output XML
2. submit the patch once remy likes it. since I need his help to convince
the other committers to Ok the patch
3. write a JMeter monitor that is configurable

The type of monitor I had in mind is more general. What I want to do is be
able to build tomcat + webapps nightly and deploy it. Then an Ant process
would kick off to load and regression test the changes. The monitor would
ping the server on a set interval to see how it performs. The information
provided by the status servlet in TC5 include threads, vm and so on. The
design I had in mind was to have a generic parser interface, which the
monitor uses. that way it maintains the same level of flexibility and
extensibility as other Jmeter components. The regression/stress test plan
would have one monitor that records the results. Time permitting after all
that is done, I want to write a GUI that allows me to view the performance
of the server for the duration of the test.

Does that sound similar to what you were thinking of?

peter


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Hi,

I thought about monitoring our web farm using JMeter. I would write a
console to view all unsucessfull polls on one spot and extend the
listeners. Of course that console would need to do alerting as well but
thats somewhat out of scope... (and quite easy using java)

Has anyone done such a thing so far?
Is the whole idea nonsense?
Is JMeter stable enough to run infinite?
Does JMeter work in an environment where I need to test about 1000 targets

each minute?

any comments welcome

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