I think it's just something like what is described in here
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11617210/how-to-properly-import-a-selfsigned-certificate-into-java-keystore-that-is-avail
Nico
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
> That would be good. I'll believe it when I see it. That's not one of
> options they mention in the blog. Seems to me that would have been the
> obvious solution.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Nicolas Vervelle <nverve...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You misunderstood me.
>>
>> You will need to sign Jmol applet even to test it locally, I agree, this
>> is a new requirement.
>> But locally, you can add your own self-signed certificate (or the own
>> currently in Jmol SVN) in your repository of trusted certificate
>> authorities : your self-signed certificate will then be viewed as a trusted
>> certificate (a trusted root certificate is nothing more than a self signed
>> certificate that is in your list of trusted certificate authorities, your
>> cacerts file).
>>
>> Nico
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> nope. Read the blog carefully.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/code_signing_understanding_who_and
>>>
>>> <<*Developers* must sign any browser applet or Web Start application
>>> that they produce. Signatures on other application types (such as back-end
>>> server applications) are optional.>>
>>>
>>> It's all about how complex this is going to be within an organization
>>> that requires local testing. Right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Nicolas Vervelle <nverve...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Hard constraints are indeed being added to Java for applets and JNLP :-(
>>>>
>>>> I think it will still be possible to use self signed applets locally
>>>> for development by circumventing this mechanism : a trusted certificate is
>>>> nothing more than a certificate issued by a root certificate authority who
>>>> is trusted. For a developer, it's probably possible to add your own self
>>>> signed certificate in the trusted authorities on your computer...
>>>> We'll have to look more seriously into this very soon :-(
>>>>
>>>> Nico
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kind of a doomsday, I'm afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the aspects of this (if I have it right, and I think I do) is
>>>>> that *all Java developers who which to build any applet and run it on
>>>>> their local installations will have to have trusted signed certificates.*
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can tell, this is pretty much the end of joint open-source
>>>>> Java applet development. In order to test your code, you will have to have
>>>>> a *trusted* signed certificate. No self-signing. Period. Of course,
>>>>> you can still build applications and run them on your computer (go
>>>>> figure!). You just can't make an applet. We'll see if that pans out, but
>>>>> from what I read, that's the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/code_signing_understanding_who_and
>>>>>
>>>>> [By the way, this entire blog is something to take a look at. It will
>>>>> be our guide to the next stage.]
>>>>>
>>>>> This saddens me very much. It isn't just Jmol. It's about the wider
>>>>> development community. All except a few will be locked out of contributing
>>>>> in any significant way to any Java project that involves applets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
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