PHILLIP W BARAK sent [2.46p gmt 2004 March 29 Monday] : >----- Original Message ----- From: timothy driscoll ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>'Microsoft will >>>continue to support its Java virtual machine through September >>>2004, a nine-month extension that will make it easier for >>>customers to find substitutes for the software...' >>> >>does the last MS JVM use Java 1.4? that would be nice. and I >>wonder what 'support' means, exactly? Keep it up to date? > >No, I think that MS's idea of support on this is simply handling >'security' issues. (see MS FAQ at >http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp ) > ah, of course. I should have known.
>> >>...which is why a javascript that triggers on functionality, not >>plug-in identity, is the desired filter. :-) > >....if we can identify a functionality that separates the doggy JVMs >from those that have a 'right' to live. > right. >> >>>And I'd rather not disappoint them by sending them off site >>>without showing them some of the goods, especially if the MS JVM >>>is reasonably fast and technically compatible with Jmol! >> >>the technical compatibility between Jmol and the MS JVM is out of >>my league, but your point is a good one. > >Thanks. Indeed, every time I meet a site that says that I must have >browser x, y, or z (but it's usually IE!) for the best viewing >experience, I usually leave and never come back, and so would >potential Jmol users. And what a shame if the MSJVM could indeed run >the applet. > I have, by necessity, become more flexible in this regard. since using Chime forces one to choose from among a small subset of browsers, it's hard for me to throw stones. ;-) >> >>>(OTOH, I can see abandoning NS 4.x, etc., because they are >>>dinosaurs _and_ virtually none of the traffic to my site uses them >>>anyway, even if they are chime-capable--can others who keep >>>website statistics verify a need to try to keep them?) >>> >>any Mac accessing a Chime site. true, we are a minority. > >I knew that you'd speak up for the mac users, Tim! > :-) >But they can't use Mozilla or Safari and have an excellent viewing >experience w/ Jmol? ...no need anymore for them to revert to 'classic' >OS9 to use chime. > that assumes they have upgraded to OSX, which some folks are reluctant to do until it matures a little more. and there is the cost factor; upgrading an entire computer lab to OSX, for example, is not quite as abrupt as going from mac to pc, but it is still a transition. a 'frozen' Jmol would be nice, IMO, but not worth a huge effort - these users still have Chime. but if it's just a matter of starting a dead-end branch of the code, it might be useful. regards, :tim -- timothy driscoll molvisions - molecular graphics & visualization <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:wake forest ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
