On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 14:54 -0500, Miguel wrote: > > I'm surprised that you mention that Jmol is regarded as > > something for novices and toy-like. > > I don't recall anyone waying that it is 'toy-like'
I may have misphrased that - apologies. However my point is that as it is, Jmol is a wonderful tool for educators and novices - that is, newcomers to chemistry. However I also believe that with the addition of various features (some of which are being discussed) Jmol can be useful to other levels of people in this and associated fields. > The professionals and researchers have software tools. Professionals pay > serious money for a lot of them, so I assume that they must be happy and > well-served. The corporations do no pay any money to support me or Jmol > (despite my requests), so I assume that they are not interested. > > It seems that the educators (and their students) get nothing more than a > few table scraps. Unfortunately true in academics - but also understandable. Given my goal to enter academics the question of funding has been in my mind. Projects such as Jmol/CDK deserve to be funded - but how to come about the money is something that is not obvious to me :( > But that should be *your* job, and the job of the professional chemists, > not my job. > > I am a computer scientist, not a chemist. I fully appreciate your statement - and I think it's really a compromise. You as a CS person need to learn chemistry and chemists need to write code :) From the various posts I can see that you are doing the former and it would be great if Jmol had more chemist coders (of course there may be more than I know) > It is incredibly inefficient for me to learn about and try to understand > chemical/biochemical/crystallographic concepts via email. Very understandable. To be honest, I'm nearing the end of my PhD so stuff like dissertations, post-doc searches are coming up :( In addition I have been working on aspects of CDK. As a result I have been more of a observer in the Jmol community. However as time permits I do want to contribute - if not code (as it take some to become familiar with the codebase), then ideas and discussions. PS. I came across a NIH funding proposal (http://grants1.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-RM-05-012.html) related to cheminformatics research. I was wondering if there are any faculty members on this list (as well as the CDK lists) that might have seen this. Clearly, coding of a visualization tool or cheminformatics framework cannot the sole goal of such a funding opportunity - but they could be useful components. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://jijo.cjb.net> GPG Fingerprint: 0CCA 8EE2 2EEB 25E2 AB04 06F7 1BB9 E634 9B87 56EE ------------------------------------------------------------------- A meeting is an event at which the minutes are kept and the hours are lost. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users