Bob Hanson said:
>> http://www.ill.fr/dif/3D-crystals/superconductors.html )
> so beautiful! I tried to rotate them! :)

To rotate them, you must install a VRML plug-in - my favourite is SGI's
CosmoPlayer with FireFox - see:
http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/help/VRML-help.html

> My first question is, did you produce these "by hand" or did you just
> pull them from a database and they appeared this way?

All automatic. Once you have installed a VRML plug-in, you can click on
"Display" in the ICSD database eg
http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/index.php?action=Structure&id%5B%5D=23383 and you
will see the default drawing, for which the polyhedrae are chemically
meaningful. This PHP form does allow you to adjust how the structure is
displayed, but the main interest is to get a chemically meaningful drawing
from the database automatically.

> You just aren't familiar with the polyhedra syntax...

True. On the above page I also have a Jmol option for the display of this
structure. I would like to be able to make the default Jmol display closer
to the default VRML display.

The reason I am interested in this is that the ball has been dropped on
VRML with the demise of Silicon Graphics, just after CosmoPlayer was
implemented under Windows and fast graphics cards became available (MSIE
broke CosmoPlayer in April). It still works with FireFox, but I don't know
for how much longer, and it does require copying the CosmoPlayer plugin to
the browser plug-in folder, which is not obvious for all chemists. On the
other hand, Java is actively supported, and the Java plug-in installation
is largely automatic, so even computer illiterate users should be able to
use Jmol - if it can be made automatic (how many times have I said
automatic :-)

And I see that Bob Downs has not done better with Jmol on the American
Mineralogist database - no polyhedrae :-)

Alan.
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