Bob,

We've been working on a Fisher configuration proof student model exercise using Jmol compare to have students follow the identity of the aldoses as they hack away at glucose from the top down. Consequently, we have good aldose SMILES and coordinates in an internal database. From this, I noticed that there were problems with the NIH return of aldoses. In addition to your observations, I've noted that there is lack of cyclic vs acyclic hexose return consistency. Also while "glucose" loads alpha-D-glucose (and water), "alpha-D-glucose" does not load alpha-D-glucose. I see it as alpha-D-talose. "Talose" (and "tallose" to be certain) is not recognized by the server. As a reminder that CAS numbers may also be used, the server does recognize talose's CAS (2595-98-4). Unfortunately, it loads mannose!

From the NIH docs, I see that the server has 68 million names linked to 16 million unique structures. The aldose confusion suggests that some of my former students had a hand in this component of the database! Still, 16 million unique structures! I'm glad that you suggested that I write these folks.

You can check me on the alpha-D-talose. I've been known to show the same aldose confusion as some of my students.

Otis

Otis Rothenberger
chemagic.com


On 8/24/2010 7:41 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
oh my oh my oh my....

I've changed the SMILES server url in 12.1 to this NIH server because it is so very fast and I am SO impressed -- superb conversion to 3D, even for steroids. Stereochemistry is good, conformation is good. Allene stereochemistry is missing, but incorrect SMILES bond stereochemistry is accepted graciously.


And this means you can now use:

 load $cyclohexane
 load $benzene
 load $3-methoxytoluene
 load $cholesterol
 load $aspirin
 load $taxol
 load $viagra

wow!

BUT...

You do have to be careful. I also notice that these two give the same return:

 load $allose
 load $mannose

giving  C(O)[...@h]1[c@@H](O)[C@@H](O)[C@@H](O)[...@h](O)O1

which I believe is L-talose!

and

load $glucose

loads alpha-D-glucose with an extra H2O off to the side!

So there are a few issues there. But still, this is great!

Thank you, Otis!

Bob



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