Dear Bob, dear Angel,

In relation with the P2N file format (previous messages), I also have  
a question regarding the PDB file format & Jmol.

I wrote two Jmol applets @
http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/javaappletpdb-1.html
   which loads
http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/Mol_m1-o1-qmra.pdb i.e.
ATOM      1 CA1  BNZ     1      0.5624  1.2144  0.3611                       C
ATOM      2 H1   BNZ     1      0.9988  2.1568  0.6413                       H
ATOM      3 CB2  BNZ     1     -0.7794  1.1461  0.0200                       C
ATOM      4 H2   BNZ     1     -1.3843  2.0354  0.0356                       H
ATOM      5 CC3  BNZ     1     -1.3418 -0.0683 -0.3411                       C
ATOM      6 H3   BNZ     1     -2.3830 -0.1213 -0.6057                       H
ATOM      7 CD4  BNZ     1     -0.5624 -1.2144 -0.3611                       C
ATOM      8 H4   BNZ     1     -0.9988 -2.1568 -0.6413                       H
ATOM      9 CE5  BNZ     1      0.7794 -1.1461 -0.0200                       C
ATOM     10 H5   BNZ     1      1.3843 -2.0354 -0.0356                       H
ATOM     11 CF6  BNZ     1      1.3418  0.0683  0.3410                       C
ATOM     12 H6   BNZ     1      2.3830  0.1213  0.6057                       H

and

http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/javaappletpdb-2.html
   which loads
http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/Mol_m2-o1-qmra.pdb i.e.
ATOM      1 CA1  BNZ     1      0.5624  1.2144  0.3611
ATOM      2 H1   BNZ     1      0.9988  2.1568  0.6413
ATOM      3 CB2  BNZ     1     -0.7794  1.1461  0.0200
ATOM      4 H2   BNZ     1     -1.3843  2.0354  0.0356
ATOM      5 CC3  BNZ     1     -1.3418 -0.0683 -0.3411
ATOM      6 H3   BNZ     1     -2.3830 -0.1213 -0.6057
ATOM      7 CD4  BNZ     1     -0.5624 -1.2144 -0.3611
ATOM      8 H4   BNZ     1     -0.9988 -2.1568 -0.6413
ATOM      9 CE5  BNZ     1      0.7794 -1.1461 -0.0200
ATOM     10 H5   BNZ     1      1.3843 -2.0354 -0.0356
ATOM     11 CF6  BNZ     1      1.3418  0.0683  0.3410
ATOM     12 H6   BNZ     1      2.3830  0.1213  0.6057

As you can see
http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/javaappletpdb-1.html
is ok, while
http://cluster.q4md-forcefieldtools.org/~ucpublic1/javaappletpdb-2.html
leads to ugly connections; I guess this because of the absence of  
chemical elements in Mol_m2-o1-qmra.pdb.

Why does Jmol need chemical elements to recognize atom names?
- Many small molecules are written in the PDB file format without  
these chemical elements
- VMD and LEaP (for instance) do not need chemical elements to  
recognize atom names

Do you think it would be possible that Jmol recognizes atom names  
without chemical elements?

  ---

For each job, R.E.D. Server generates by now a Jmol-based graphical  
interface to display outputs generated by R.E.D. IV.
See for instance:
http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/Tutorial/DNA-FFTopDB/P1.html
  &
http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/REDS/images/Screenshot1.gif
http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/REDS/images/Screenshot2.gif
http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/REDS/images/Screenshot3.gif

The problem is that some of the applets generated for the PDB files  
present broken/bad atom connectivities because of the absence of  
chemical elements; we can obviously add chemical elements in our PDB  
files (no problem) - however doing so in the P2N file format might not  
be that straightforward...

I continue now with these simple atom names
ATOM      1 C1   BNZ     1      0.5624  1.2144  0.3611
ATOM      2 H1   BNZ     1      0.9988  2.1568  0.6413
ATOM      3 C2   BNZ     1     -0.7794  1.1461  0.0200
ATOM      4 H2   BNZ     1     -1.3843  2.0354  0.0356
ATOM      5 C3   BNZ     1     -1.3418 -0.0683 -0.3411
ATOM      6 H3   BNZ     1     -2.3830 -0.1213 -0.6057
ATOM      7 C4   BNZ     1     -0.5624 -1.2144 -0.3611
ATOM      8 H4   BNZ     1     -0.9988 -2.1568 -0.6413
ATOM      9 C5   BNZ     1      0.7794 -1.1461 -0.0200
ATOM     10 H5   BNZ     1      1.3843 -2.0354 -0.0356
ATOM     11 C6   BNZ     1      1.3418  0.0683  0.3410
ATOM     12 H6   BNZ     1      2.3830  0.1213  0.6057
no problem: atom connectivites are correct in a Jmol applet even in  
the absence of chemical elements; it also works for
http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/Tutorial/DNA-FFTopDB/P1/javaappletpdb-6.html
where atom names are not that simple.

Consequently, this means that Jmol can already recognize some atom  
names without chemical elements. Is it not possible to extend this  
feature to more general atom names?

thanks a lot

regards, Francois



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