Eric. Can you provide an example link to look at? I have the latest OS, Java, and Firefox.
Jonathan: What OS, Java, and Firefox versions are you using. I see some of what you are seeing, but not sure. On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Eric Martz wrote: > Firefox 4.0 has some improvements, but also some serious problems vis > a vis Jmol on Macs. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Here are my observations with Firefox 4.0 on Mac OS 10.5.8 "Leopard" (no > snow), > with Apple java 1.5.0_28. I DO NOT HAVE A SNOW LEOPARD (OS 10.6) > SYSTEM and would > appreciate hearing about the issues below from a Snow Leopard user. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > TEXT ZOOM > View, Zoom no longer causes Jmol to be wrong-sized. This old problem > is fixed. I prefer to check "Zoom Text Only" because I like larger > than default text, but I don't need Jmol to be larger than life. > > APPLET FOCUS BORDER > Good: a new dotted line appears around Jmol when it has focus. (This > does not appear in Safari.) > > CURSOR FAILS TO CHANGE IN APPLET > The cursor no longer changes in the applet: placing the cursor at the > right margin of Jmol (for zooming) fails to change it, as does > holding the Shift key down for zooming. The cursor changes still work > in Safari. > > APPLET MENU PROBLEM > Serious problem with Jmol's menu: when you move the mouse outside the > boundaries of Jmol, the menu closes. This precludes using most of the > menu when it is raised by clicking on the "Jmol" frank. > > RIGHT CLICK: MENU OFTEN FAILS IN JMOL 11.8 > I have intermittant problems raising Jmol's menu with right click in > Jmol 11.8 (still used in FirstGlance and in Proteopedia). Right click > never works from the upper left corner of Jmol. This means that it is > rather challenging to open the Console or see "About Jmol"! But right > click works reliably in Jmol 12.1.41, even in the upper left corner. > > RAISING APPLET TITLE BAR > Under the right conditions, pressing the Cmd key raises a title bar > above Jmol. (Thanks to Jaim Prilusky for discovering this.) The only > feature I have found this title bar to have is that you can drag Jmol > with it, detaching Jmol from the Firefox 4.0 window. This leaves the > original Jmol rectangle blank. If you close the detached Jmol window, > the molecule reappears in the original rectangle within the Firefox window. > > Even when detached, all scripts sent to Jmol from the Firefox window > via javascript still work! > > In order to raise the title bar at the top of the applet, I must > first click outside, then inside Jmol, then press Cmd. This works > only once. For a second go, you again must click outside, then inside > again. Further, as soon as you move the mouse, the bar disappears. > So, to use the title bar, I must pay attention to have my mouse very > close to the top of Jmol when I press Cmd. Then I can move the mouse > into the title bar, click and drag Jmol. > > The title bar seems to be a feature of Firefox 4's interaction with > java. I could not find any documentation for this online. In Safari, > there is no title bar, and no applet focus border. There appears to > be no title bar in Windows in Firefox 4 (see below). > > JMOL OUTSIDE BROWSER WINDOW > Moving Jmol outside the browser window (with the title bar) means you > can scroll the text without pushing Jmol out of view. > > Another use is that you can have two FirstGlance in Jmol sessions, > detach the Jmol from one, and move it for a side by side comparison > with the other Jmol. Both sessions retain control of their Jmols. > > MENU WORKS BETTER WITH DETACHED JMOL > Detaching Jmol has a big advantage for using the Menu: now you can > move the mouse outside of Jmol and the menu remains usable. This > works regardless of whether the detached Jmol is inside the Firefox > window, or outside it. > > BLANKING BETWEEN SCENES IS ALMOST GONE! > If Firefox 3.6.15 (and all earlier versions), changing the scene in > FirstGlance caused Jmol to go blank white before the new scene > appears. This was very annoying. Also, double clicking to measure > distances often failed, and often temporarily froze Jmol. > (FirstGlance is using Jmol 11.8.22; Proteopedia, 11.8.24.) In > Proteopedia, the 'toggle spin' and 'toggle quality' buttons cause > blank white flashes. Also, when you scroll the page (and Jmol moves > with the page), Jmol blanks white until you stop scrolling. > > None of these problems happened in Safari. > > In Firefox 4.0, almost all the blank flashes are gone! Except that I > do get a white flash (in Jmol 11.8) or a black flash (in Jmol > 12.1.41) when changing focus from Jmol to outside Jmol and vice > versa. This is pretty minor. Also measuring distances now works > reliably in FirstGlance! > > ------------ > WINDOWS XP > ------------ > In Windows XP (with current java 1.6.0_24), in Firefox 4.0, right > click raises Jmol's menu reliably from anywhere in Jmol even in Jmol > 11.8, and moving outside Jmol does NOT close the menu prematurely. I > could not find any key (Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Windows) or any pair of > keys that raises the applet title bar seen in Firefox (but not seen > in Safari) on the Mac OS 10.5.8. This was true both in virtual WinXP > in Parallels on the Mac, and in a real WinXP computer. > > -Eric > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the > growing manageability and security demands of your customers. 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