Bob,

I really want to do that in the worst way. I mean animate it back together 
rather than just reload it. Do you have any ideas?

Hmm... I wonder if reloading it with connect delete, followed by a delay 
loop reconnecting bonds, followed by a proper load to correct multiple 
bonds would make it look like a reverse animation?

Otis

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Otis Rothenberger

Department of Chemistry

Illinois State University
Normal, IL 61790-4160

http://chemagic.org


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From: "Robert Hanson" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:50 PM
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] An Old Paper and Jmol/Resolver 

Great -- 

-- I suggest a "put it back together" link. 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Otis Rothenberger <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Bob,

I put a Google Standard InChI search link on my IL State Fair ACS kiosk toy 
suggestion:

http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/acs.aspx

Users can play with it to see what they think about the Google search 
approach. I hope the toy instructions are fairly intuitive. Here's my point 
of view and some specific notes relate the Google search:

My View:
I'm interested in developing more high school teacher interest in Jmol. To 
this end, I'm hoping to do some local section ACS speaking in the near 
future. I think any useful student utility that helps break an 
understandable mind set that Jmol is simply a "see the pretty molecule 
spin" application is a useful addition. I say understandable because "Jmol 
2011" is really not that well known outside a small circle of users.

Notes:
1) Google has obviously put some specific thought into chemical searching 
via InChI - some specifics below.
2) For some reason, Resolver has some problems with the cyclooctatetraene 
InChI. I suspect this is related to flat (aromatic) vs tub (not aromatic) 
confusion in the SMILES. Without putting up a "did you mean" warning, 
Google appends the search URL InCHI to improve the search.

3) Taxol seems to be big test compound with this toy, so I'll make a 
special Taxol note here. Resolver has some issues with % in some SMILES.  
I don't think so. Must be your escaping. This works just fine in Jmol:

load $taxol
x = {*}.find("SMILES")
load smiles @x

 I have not been able to work this all out, but I suspect it's a query 
string issue with the percent sign location in certain SMILES. I've tried 
escaping the % sign itself with little success. I dodge this issue by 
trapping Jmol SMILES that have a %. I then have JME read the Jmol molfile, 
and I use the JME SMILES for this molfile. This, of course, produces the 
non-isomeric SMILES. I'd trap only problem SMILES if I could figure out the 
specific nature of this % sign problem. Back to Google: The search works. 
Google has obviously done a thorough job of indexing InChI's.

I note that "cholesterol" also picks up a related isomer, lathosterol, in a 
Google search.

Just to test pushing Jmol Script's ability to make these loading queries, I 
added a feature that will select PubChem's 2D sdf file if the 3D sdf is not 
available. Taxol is just such a model.  

?? the 3D mol file of taxol is available. What's the issue?

Otis

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Otis Rothenberger

Department of Chemistry

Illinois State University
Normal, IL 61790-4160

http://chemagic.org


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From: "Robert Hanson" <[email protected]>

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:22 AM
To: [email protected], [email protected]

Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] An Old Paper and Jmol/Resolver 

Otis, are you  suggesting we add a "Google" menu item in Jmol?

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