On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Alexander Rose <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> here is how I understand it now
>
> compare {22-31} {7-16} SUBSET {*.CA} ATOMS {24-31} {9-16}
>
> this moves {22-31} {7-16} while minimizing the RMSD of the {24-31} {9-16}
> Calpha pairs
>
> and then there is the quaternion based approach which minimizes paired
> group quaternion orientations
>
> compare {22-31} {7-16} ORIENTATIONS {24-31} {9-16}
>
> here you replace ATOMS with ORIENTATIONS and remove SUBSET {*.CA} (the
> quaternion frame that is used must be given outside the compare command
> with set quaternionFrame)
>
> The documentation states that "if the SUBSET option is not specified, the
> models are matched atom-for-atom based on 'SPINE' atoms..." . I thought
> that "compare {22-31} {7-16}" would be the same as "compare {22-31} {7-16}
> SUBSET {*.CA or *.C or *.N} ATOMS {22-31} {7-16}". Anyway, they say
> explicit is better then implicit.
>
>
I've adjusted it a bit, and I think now it is as you imagined.

I was wrong about putting SUBSET first -- that was allowed but not
relevant. I've got SUBSET first now (12.3.25) throwing an error.


>
> Best
> Alexander
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > Von: "Robert Hanson" <[email protected]>
> > An: [email protected]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012 14:18:49
> > Betreff: Re: [Jmol-users] 'compare' probably broken in 12.3.10
> > Alexander, that sound right to me. You can't compare two totally
> > different sets of atoms, with different atom counts. That was an early
> > flaw in the design that was fixed. Generally you would, for example,
> > pick just the alpha carbons or just the backbone (includes O) or just
> > the spine (C, CA, and N). So the correct command would be:
> >
> > compare {22-31} {7-16} SUBSET {*.CA}
> >
> > ah, but I think there's a bug there. You have to do it in this order:
> >
> > load =1crn;compare SUBSET {*.CA} {22-31} {7-16}
> >
> > That's a bug.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Alexander Rose <
> > [email protected] > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have problems with the compare command and 12.3.10 seems to be the
> > first time it occurs.
> >
> > load =1crn;
> > compare {22-31} {7-16} rotate translate;
> >
> > works in 12.3.9 but just says "RMSD NaN --> NaN Angstroms" in 12.3.10
> > and later.
> >
> > Can someone confirm that.
> >
> >
> > Best
> > Alexander
> >
> >
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