In that case, you should have them use the File menu option
"Save PNG+JMOL"
because that ensures that all necessary files are saved as well. Then they
can catalog them easily on their machine just be looking at the image in
their file directories, and they can drag-drop the files back into Jmol or
use the File menu as you suggest if they want to restore them.
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Martin Hediger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Bob
> Good to have this overview.
> Maybe I'm missing it, but in my impression, a third way would be as I
> described to use the Jmol File menue, and then the "Save Script with State"
> function. We believe, the common behavior a user expects is that the user
> can save a state, as some kind of input file for a calculation, on his
> local machine. This works nicely with the above function, combined with
> later using "Open File or URL".
>
> Following your conventions, it would mean
>
> (c) "restore from a previous session using data saved on the client"
>
> Looking forward to anything that can be added to this aspect.
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> On 15.06.12 12:30, Robert Hanson wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> I can't remember if you mean
>
> (a) "restore from a few minutes ago within this session" or
> (b) "restore from a previous session using data saved on the server"
>
> So I will use this opportunity to discuss different ways to save the
> state, some of which are very new and only a couple of us are aware of.
>
>
> (a) "restore from a few minutes ago within this session"
>
> This is trivial. All within Jmol. This works for all versions of Jmol:
> :
>
> save state xxx
>
> restore state xxx
>
>
> (b) "restore from a previous session using data saved on the server" and
> using 12.3:
>
> Option 1. Slicker-than-ice new method
>
> WITHIN Jmol we will post the entire state to the server, including all
> necessary files to restore the state, in PNGJ format. That is, Jmol
> basically does its own AJAX to deliver a PNGJ file to its server. You can
> do this with the signed or unsigned applet. The load command is used so
> that we can confirm that the upload was successful.
>
> print load("myserverurl.xxxx/xxxx?POST?_PNGJ_")
>
> That is really the slickest way to go, because you get an image that you
> can check. You have to have a server-side app that can accept a post. The
> variable will be server POST variable will be "_PNGJ_" and it's value will
> be a base64-encoded image. Server should return something like "OK". If
> this is your interest, talk with me, because I just realized we could
> easily just send the entire state in binary format and make this one step
> simpler. I like this option because on the server you get an image that
> can be delivered straight back to a client either as an image or as a Jmol
> model. This option is Jmol 12.3.30-only. Use the files in
> http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/Jmol-12.zip
>
> Option 2: Just the state to server, no files:
>
> If you know the files are always available (remote or from your site) and
> you do not want to save a full PNGJ state, you can just use this to save
> the Jmol state script:
>
> print load("myserverurl/saveJmolState.php?POST?state=" +
> getProperty("stateInfo"))
>
> For either of these options you would have to figure out how to restore
> the state from your server using something like this within Jmol:
>
> script "myserverurl/restoreJmolState.php?....."
>
> and have the server either return the state script or the PNGJ file.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Martin Hediger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob, thanks for your answer.
>> First of all, my question would be what's the best way to restore the
>> state?
>> Second, 1.1 and 2.1 are rotatable. 3.1 not.
>> I'm trying to do it with the signed applet (useing save script with
>> state) and it seems to work, but I'm highly suscpicious about anything that
>> works just that easily.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13.06.12 23:53, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>
>> allowRotateSelected is for all models, right? Not specific to a specific
>> model, I think.
>>
>> If models have been rotated using allowRotateSelected, it means that
>> their atom positions have changed. This will be reflected in the state, so
>> I imagine everything should be fine when you restore the state from disk.
>>
>> Have you seen a problem with that?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Martin Hediger <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Jmol Developers
>>> I'm working on our application and I require to enable the user to
>>> restore a previous Jmol session. In the applet, three models are loaded,
>>> for two of which "allowRotateSelected" is enabled. That means when the
>>> user restores a session, the orientation of the two rotatable models
>>> (1.1 and 2.1) should also be restored.
>>>
>>> How should this be done?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input
>>> Martin
>>>
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