On 3 Nov 2013, at 08:57, Nicolas Vervelle <nverve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> I know I have a full certificate, valid for one year, but it's unclear what I 
> will have to do in one year : I'm not sure if renewal is still free or 
> requires some money.
> It's the only option I found that allowed me to have a free code signing 
> certificate for the moment, so I decided to try it.
> Users with recent Java version have now again the ability to trust my 
> application once and for all, which is a lot better than what they were 
> allowed with the self-signed certificate.
> 
> Nico
> 

I have been discussing this with the ACS and RSC;  I have a total of about  40  
Jmol objects in these and other journals which rely on the Jmol applet working 
in a browser.  They will all die in Jan 2014 unless something is done (even the 
latest ones, which default to  JSmol, can in fact be switched over to  Jmol 
using ?JAVA ).

But this does raise some questions:

1.  I would imagine its best if  Jmol is signed by a legal entity.  This could 
be one individual, or an organisation.  But the Jmol community is not a legal 
organisation (unless someone corrects me).
So who would actually sign  Jmol?   What legal implications would they inherit 
by doing so? 

2. Whoever or whatever organisation signs Jmol, will that cause anyone to 
question its  “opensource credentials”?  Might someone confuse certificate 
signing with  “ownership”?

3. What about multiple versions of  Jmol, each signed by a different individual 
or different organisation?  Is that viable?  Each would be signing that they eg 
legally trust the original source (which would be the loose  Jmol community, or 
perhaps if we are to be specific,  Bob Hanson?) 

Oh dear, each of the above implies  Lawyers!  But are they avoidable? 

Does anyone yet have a provisionally signed  applet  that could be used for 
internal testing? 

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