This is true, but as someone else mentioned, factor in deductions, and
the fact that SS/Medicare are a relatively small part of taxes when
put up against the 800-pound gorilla of income taxes, and the tax
rates are roughly similar. It maybe be a few more % (single digit) as
a freelancer, but they are pretty similar for comparison. My point
was that the risk is what makes up the higher relative rates, not just
the risk of finding work, but the risk of doing the work and not
getting paid!
I think susan can find someone at $10/hr if she wants a college
student looking to scrape a few bucks together part-time, but no
professional would take that rate.
On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote:
If you're an employee, you company is paying half of your SS taxes
and state disability. If you work for yourself, you have to pay the
entire amount yourself, which is double what you are paying as an
employee.
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From: Mike Dikan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Joseph Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:49:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nyphp-jobs] soccer website - need help ASAP!
It doesn't really make sense to include taxes in any rationalization
for high hourly rates, as all full time employees have to pay taxes
as well. However, it does make sense to say that there is a giant
cost in risk for not having the guaranteed paycheck of full time work.
I think an NYC php coder with a CS degree and 3 years of experience
can expect anywhere from $50-80/hour depending on the strength of
their resume/recommendations. I've personally paid $40/hour for
someone who had 2 years experience and no degree.
-Mike
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Joseph Crawford wrote:
Michael,
Not only do you have to take benefits into consideration but you
also have to take taxes into consideration so yes while you might
actually bring in 120k per year you are not making that much. If
you are working under a 1099 you can bet on 33% (approx) going to
taxes then you have to pay for health, medical, dental, office
supplies etc. I would be surprised if you came out with $70,000 as
income. Keep in mind that you also have to pay utility bills such
as cable, electricity, phone, these are all office related expenses.
33% of 124k is approx 41k going to taxes so I could see where Chris
would get this figure. I am sure he is accounting for more than
just the benefits etc.
Thanks,
Joseph Crawford
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Michael Marc-Aurele wrote:
Joseph,
You are also in Mass. NYC is different.
Considering Chris’s blog equates 60/hr to 50K with benefits…I
wouldn’t exactly call that the gold standard when it comes to
figuring out consulting rates.
As someone noted in the comments section below where Chris called
60/hr fifty K with benefits. 60 per hour is approx 120K if you
work the full year at that rate. So unless benefits cost 70K he is
way off.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of Joseph Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:57 AM
To: Anjali Arora
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nyphp-jobs] soccer website - need help ASAP!
I have 10 years of experience with php and I charge $60 per hour.
I have seen people charge upwards of $90 per hour with the same
experience. I would say someone with 3 years of solid experience
(if they really know what they are doing) should expect $30 - $40
per hour when doing contracting.
On Jul 30, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Anjali Arora wrote:
Hi,
Related to this, I'd be interested in knowing what a PHP-MySQL
coder (with maybe 3 years of good experience) would cost hourly in
NY/NJ. This is for a freelance project relating to a social
networking site. I expect there to be a couple of input forms, the
routine social networking features such as commenting, rating, &
the database design. The last is very crucial to me as I'd like
the possibility of data to be mashed in assorted ways down the road.
What should I reasonably expect to pay, & is hourly the best way
to go?
Thanks!
-Anjali
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Webmiester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Susan,
$10.00 an hour???
Not for $10.00.
Minimum wage just increased...
You should get a volunteer.
Rob
From: susanna thornton STUDIO
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:58 PM
To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [nyphp-jobs] soccer website - need help ASAP!
Hello:
I am a fine art photographer based here in New York- I also run a
pickup soccer group on the side. I am looking for someone with
experience in the following areas to take over the maintenence and
development of the soccer website (which utilizes databases and
has e-commerce facets for the online registrations) and also to
help me maintain my php mailing list for my photography site.
I need someone ASAP for the soccer website! We are switching over
to our fall season registrations soon and I need to talk to
someone as soon as possible about this as I'm leaving the country
next week! Please send all inquiries to me here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The soccer website url is:
http://www.pickupsoccernyc.org
This is where I currently need the most help.
The new registration has to go online by August 15th-
I am looking for someone with solid expertise in the following
areas:
The skills you need are:
PHP
MySQL
SSL certificates
credit card processing
HTML
CSS
The last person I worked with was a student with pretty solid
knowledge who I paid $10/hour but he is no longer available to
work on this. Thanks.
SUSANNA THORNTON
SUSANNA THORNTON STUDIO
New York, NY
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