right on Vince!!!

Vince Lavieri wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Okay, this is old discussion to most of you -- but did anyone else wince even
> > slightly at Joni's choice of "Sex Kills"?
> 
> No.
> 
> > I know I'm nitpicking, and she was
> > mostly attacking commercialism and bad vibes and behaviors, but I assume she
> > was referring to AIDS (what else?),
> 
> I don't think that she was referring to AIDS at all.
> 
> > and, well, we all know it isn't the sex
> > which kills.  Of course, I'm at a loss to come up with a way she could have
> > fit any other wording into the song without ruining the flow.  Still...
> > Sorry if this was discussed to death seven years ago.
> >
> 
> With every new discussion of a topic we always learn new things and get new
> insights!  So we welcome new discussions of previously discussed topics; for
> starters, we have not had your insights yet!
> 
> I probably change my understanding and interpretation of the song once a year,
> but...
> 
> the song is about justice (just ice) and the spoiling of the environment (Exxon)
> and the line immediately preceding "sex kills" is "sex sells everything".
> 
> The words go on to talk about the disconnect of people from their own lives and
> covers a host of society's ills, including kids packing guns to school.  At the
> time of Columbine, this song got a lot of play in here - don't know if I would
> ever want to go back and read that myriad of threads again or not, as it was
> emotional, but if you can locate that thread, I'd recommend them.
> 
> Sex sells everything and distracts us from what is important: justice,
> environment, youth, etc. etc. etc.  And as a gay man I am surely convinced that
> the gay community is as guilty as the straight community of being willingly
> distracted by sex instead of dealing with real life.  Rolling Stone has published
> some brilliant articles on gun violence in schools and the causes thereof, but to
> sell the magazine, the cover will almost always feature some nearly naked female
> singer in buff shape, and I suspect that the RS stories on violence in our
> culture are among the less well read by its readers.  And my latest issues of OUT
> are feature nearly naked men in buff shape and what is the hottest new thing in
> gay culture but very few follow-ups to the Exxon Valdez oil spill (a key feature
> of this song) or anything on oil drilling in the Alaskan wilderness.
> 
> The commercialization of sex for everything in our society has distracted us from
> dealing with that which is real, Joni says IMHO, and that is why it is of my
> favorite songs by Joni ever.  Because I think she is right on here.  And she says
> that sex sells everything, sex kills, not as a judgment but as a lament.
> 
> I also think that sex can kill.  AIDS is a virus, stds are viruses, and these
> happen in the imperfections of the physical world in which we live.  As you are
> new to the list (and a belated welcome by the way!) when you see my signature,
> please do not misunderstand.  I am far, far from some right wing zealot, please
> know that.  In my ministry (and life) I have encountered a number of people who
> have used sex as a weapon, and who have taken absolutely foolhardy risks (with
> sex, drugs, alcohol, whatever) that have killed, in the search for the momentary
> thrill.
> 
> Sex sells everything.  As I write this, I am watching the US Open, Sampras vs
> Hewitt (Hewitt is damned cute too) and Mass Mutual insurance just used a swimming
> sperm to sell their financial services.
> 
> Again, welcome!  I am sorry that I have not greeted you sooner!
> 
> (the Rev) Vince
> 
> http://www.pathwaynet.com/stmatthias

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