In a message dated 15/09/01 05:12:45 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< I am a pacifist, not a popular thing to be these days. My wayward son
and father of my grandson Gage, my son Jeremy with whom I have long been
estranged, is a Marine.
Harry Fosdick wrote the words to a hymn "God of Grace and God of
Glory." It is a bit Christocentric and many here are not Christians and
that is ok, I would never believe that the way that I know God is the
only way to know God. So if you read though the Christ/church language
and put it in a form that works for you in knowing God, or whatever the
experience of something greater than us is for you, I share this with
you. >>
As a non-Christian, I say Amen to that Vince. They are wonderful words. And
how right you are about how isolating it is to be a pacifist. I get really
worried about the bellicose talk that is springing up now (both here in
England and, from what I read, in the USA) about bombing X, Y or Z to
buggery. Like that's going to help one bit. I truly believe it can only
make things worse, and hope that wiser counsel will prevail, even if it is
only for the purely pragmatic reason that bombing more people is more likely
to strengthen the resolve of the next generation of suicidal psychopaths than
to cow them.
Azeem in London