I am no musician either but I know bad when I hear it.  I had seen and heard
Kenny G numerous times on television and found him very difficult to listen
to.  Kind of like pulling teeth or nails across a chalkboard.  Ugh.  I
loaned my Tina Turner tape to someone and they copped it.   Haven't had a
chance to replace it.  Have a compilation tape of various artists that
basically sucks but it does have one Tina tune on it.  "I Don't Wanna Fight"
I find that song great and the music and instrumentation takes me away.
When I listen to the song I am made strong and it gives me courage to face
the world and what may come to me.  Unfortunately, this is a cassette and I
have to wait through various crappy tunes and the one preceding Tina is
Kenny G.  UGH!  Almost like a bowel movement that will not come.  Sorry,
that is a nursing analogy but it is very accurate. (Don't ever have a meal
with nurses unless you have a very strong stomach).  I keep waiting for the
excitement, the rise, the point where the feelings comes.  It never does.  I
loathe his music and though there may be some who find him great, it is not
me.  Surprisingly, I did find a tune on the tape that is quite good.  It is
"weak" by SWV.  Had never heard of them, before or since.  Goes to show that
I miss a lot by being so far out.

Mack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pritchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: RE: Covers NJC


> Mike said
> >>Many people would name [Beethoven] as an important composer or as their
> favourite composer without knowing much more than the opening motif (is it
> sacrilegious to say 'riff' here?) of the 5th symphony, or 'Nessun Dorma'<<
>
>
> Fred replied
> >>Or even without knowing that "Nessun Dorma" was composed by Puccini!
> (insert
> your favorite emoticon here)<<
>
> Mike now says
> Yes, Puccini composed Nessun Dorma, not Beethoven. While writing the mail
I
> couldn't recall the composer (Verdi? Puccini?) so I included the name of
the
> singer of the most 'popular' version, i.e Pavarroti, not meaning to
suggest
> that it was a Beethoven piece. Sorry if I gave this impression.
>
> Mike said
> >>Kenny G may 'technically' be a very good musician (damning with faint
> praise!) but lacks something; call it soul, call it feeling, call it what
you
> want<<
>
> Fred said
> >>Here we differ: Kenny G is *not* a good musician, technically or
otherwise
> (bad tone, out of tune, poor note choices, arrhythmic feel, bad taste).<<
>
> Mike now says
> Thanks Fred. I said 'may' technically be very good, and 'may' is the
operative
> word here. As a non-musician I am in no position to judge musicians'
ability,
> only how they appeal to me or not. I didn't realise he was so bad, though
> LOL.
>
> Fred said
> >>However, I think he does have soul, his own version of it at least
> (everyone
> does), and I think he's sincere. This goes a long way to explain his
> popularity.<<
>
> Mike now says
> Here we differ. If he has soul, it is different to what I understand it to
> mean. I do not doubt his sincerity.
>
> Mike said
> >>I love Miles Davis and happily accept that there are other, better
players
> than Miles
> but he does it for me.<<
>
> Fred said
> >>There *aren't* better players than Miles ... there are those who may
play
> faster or higher, but no one, on *any* instrument, plays *music* better
than
> Miles. Of course, many musicians play music equally as well as Miles, but
none
> better.<<
>
> Mike now says
> My remarks about being a non-musician apply here too. I have heard many
people
> say that Miles is an all-time great as an innovator, bandleader, and
trumpeter
> etcetera but did not possess the best technique (that word again). I am
happy
> to accept this but for me Miles usually hits all the right notes. Whatever
> people say against him doesn't affect how I feel about Miles. Could you
> clarify one thing Fred, please? When you say "no one, on *any* instrument,
> plays *music* better than Miles" do you say this because Miles was the
> greatest musician or because comparisons are unhelpful, invalid, or just
plain
> stupid?
>
> Mike said
> >>One of my all-time musical highlights was listening to Wayne Shorter and
> Herbie Hancock's quartet playing here in BCN in around 1994. They played a
> piece without bass or drums, just the two of them, a very slow, tender,
> beautiful piece of music which was as perfect as music can get. If I ever
> reach that state of bliss again I'll be very happy.<<
>
> Fred said
> >>Mike, if you want to achieve that blissful state again, get hold of
their
> duo album, "1+1"<<
>
> Mike now says
> Thanks Fred for this information. I put on a T-shirt of the concert the
other
> day and realised the concert took place in October 1991, not 1994! How
time
> flies. Nice talking to you, Fred. There's so much to learn here.
>
> mike
> np swordfishtrombones Tom Waits

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