In a message dated 1/3/02 5:41:19 PM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Very true. At least that was the vision folks had back then. These days
>most Kibutz's) have nothing to do with the commune ideal and the younger
>generation left them for the city.

the possibilities here...
I came from the kibutz...out of the kibutz and down to the city...

nuriel, are you up for rewriting STAS with a "kibutz/city" theme?  could be 
quite interesting.

couldn't resist,

Mary K

People hurry by so quickly
Don't they hear the melodies
In the chiming and the clicking
And the laughing harmonies
- Joni Mitchell

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