i was sad to hear about jonathan harris too.  i was surprised to hear that
he was married for 64 years with two kids, i'd always assumed he was one of
those closeted gays on tv in the late '60s (alan sues) sending secret
messages out to us starved young-uns .  i'll bet he was honoring campy gay
actor friends of his with that performance.  that's actually a little bit
non-pc of me (and i'm quite proud of aiming to be pc, thank you).  queer
theorists usually consider mincing homosexual villains an expression of
hollywood homophobia (and they're right) but i refuse to disavow dr. smith.
i love harris for that character.

in october '97 there was a short thread on 'lost in space' that i've saved,
in a folder called 'lust in space'.  apparently billy mumy had a profound
effect on a few of us.  i've changed the names of people no longer on list.
the thread is six messages and there's some great dirt

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>From:  Patrick Leader
>Sent:  Thursday, October 09, 1997 11:27 AM
>To:    'Mark or Travis'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Deb Messling
>Subject:       RE:the sound of music
>
>Mark wrote,
>
>big time in my pre-teen years and when 'The Sound of Music'
>> came out I went to see it 7 times
>
>I loved Julie Andrews too and loved the movie, and Mary Poppins,
>but what amazed me about The Sound of Music was that they got that
>HUGE star Angela Cartwright from Lost in Space to do their little
>movie.  I loved Lost in Space, and when I came out at 18, i
>realized what my little 8-year old heart's longing for Billy Mumy
>was really about.
>
>June Lockhart was an incredibly warm TV mom, too, and I have two
>great stories about her, I'll try to write about later on.
>
>Patrick

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> -----Original Message-----
>From:  Patrick Leader
>Sent:  Thursday, October 09, 1997 6:04 PM
>To:    'Joni list'
>Subject:       two june lockhart stories, one mark goddard story,
>no joni content
>
The "Lost in Space" queens are legion, it appears.

A friend wrote

Hi ya,

Actually, Angela Cartwright did "Sound of Music" before
"Lost in Space" (the latter was '65 and I'm fairly sure
the movie was circa '63-4, if not earlier).  Angela
was best known for the Danny Thomas show, though, as
she played his daughter.  (I love asking people
the connection between "Sound of Music" and "Alien";
Angela and Veronica Cartwright are sisters).

[Patrick  Leader]  I'm pretty sure this is wrong, because we saw Sound of
Music right away (we always did with the big musicals) and I already knew
her, try this schedule, I'm guessing.

1965, My Fair Lady and Mary Poppins come out.  Audrey Hepburn gets Julie's
B'way role (a great unfairness) but Julie snags the Oscar.  Lost in Space
premieres, in black and white

1966 Sound of Music

June Lockhart stories
A couple of years ago my sister volunteered to help with an AIDS celebrity
auction in SF.  June Lockhart was one of the people solicited and she sent
back a scrapbook of LIS stills, with handwritten comments.  She clearly had
put a lot of work into it, and humor.  One picture showed her being menaced
by a monster, she wrote in the margin "Notice the zipper on the beast's
back"  BTW, Lost in Space was definitely low budget camp by the last year.
My sister was going to put in a bid, she knows what a fan I am.

This summer I started waking up to NPR in the morning, which I really love.
When it was HAL's birthday, they did a lot about the original lab where they
were working on Artificial Intelligence and computer generated voices.  They
played the original tape of a computer that sang "Daisy, Daisy"; Arthur C.
Clarke had visited this lab doing research for 2001.  Can't read that in the
paper.  But I digress.

Last summer during the height of the Pathfinder excitement, they played a
tape of a news conference and one of the guys said "Listen who's asking that
question in the back, it's America's favorite mom!  June Lockhart.  Then to
complete the story they had called her up and interviewed her.  Turns out
she's been an aviation and space fanatic since the 40's.  She' one of those
people who goes to as many launches and NASA news conferences as she can.
She says a lot of the guys say that she is one of the people who inspired
them to go into the field (which is kind of funny if you think about it.)
Boy, did that day start right for me.

the goddard story (I didn't like him much, too angry) was he picked up a
girl who was out with three girlfriends , one of whom is a friend of mine.
all five went to one of the girls' house, where Goddard passed out and slept
in the middle of the floor while the girls sat around him and talked. that's
the tale, no biggy, but it's a brush with greatness i guess.  Patrick


Continuing my friend's post, cause it cracks me up.

As for realizing you're gay longing for Billy Mumy,
I had that exact same experience!!! funny how we know
before we know, isn't it?  Of course, my other gay
friends say that they knew when they were inspecting
Robin's basket on the BATMAN show -- give me Billy
anyday, especially now 8').

Don't read the digest often:  what are your June
stories?

p.s. October 16, 1997 is when the Jupiter II launched
as was hopelessly LOST IN SPACE!  we're having a big
party for it in the Bay area . . . check out that
hunk Matt LeBlanc as Don West in the new movie coming
out next year (it will have cameos by the original
LIS members, but not Billy and Jonathan Harris,
unfortunately -- trailer at http://www.dangerwillrobinson.com).

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this one was from chuck eisenhardt, Thu 10/9/97 8:42 AM

Patrick,

you wrote:
> but what
> amazed me about The Sound of Music was that they got that HUGE star Angela
> Cartwright from Lost in Space to do their little movie.  I loved Lost in
> Space, and when I came out at 18, i realized what my little 8-year
old

This could be cross-filed under 'brushes with celebrity' but I
grew up next door to the Goddard family (Mark, of Lost in Space).
He's been doing the S-F convention rounds lately. I always think I
should go and say hello! (I think Angela may do them too. Maybe
even Billy!)

Chuck E

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same "a friend" as before.  Thu 10/9/97 1:42 PM


Hi ya,

Actually, Angela Cartwright did "Sound of Music" before
"Lost in Space" (the latter was '65 and I'm fairly sure
the movie was circa '63-4, if not earlier).  Angela
was best known for the Danny Thomas show, though, as
she played his daughter.  (I love asking people
the connection between "Sound of Music" and "Alien";
Angela and Veronica Cartwright are sisters).

As for realizing your gay longing for Billy Mumy,
I had that exact same experience!!! funny how we know
before we know, isn't it?  Of course, my other gay
friends say that they knew when they were inspecting
Robin's basket on the BATMAN show -- give me Billy
anyday, especially now 8').

hal

p.s. October 16, 1997 is when the Jupiter II launched
as was hopelessly LOST IN SPACE!  we're having a big
party for it in the Bay area . . . check out that
hunk Matt LeBlanc as Don West in the new movie coming
out next year (it will have cameos by the original
LIS members, but not Billy and Jonathan Harris,
unfortunately -- trailer at http://www.dangerwillrobinson.com).

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wally kairuz Thu 10/9/97 12:44 PM

At 11:27 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
 when I came out at 18, i realized what my little 8-year old
>heart's longing for Billy Mumy was really about.
>

I was delerious about Lost in Space! I wanted June Lockhart to be my real
mom, and I even told kids at school she was! Whatever happened to her?
I musta been really queer even then. I was 6 or 7 and I had the hots for Guy
Williams( did he wear an endowment pad or something? Did you notice?) and
the other guy -- NOT Dr Smith. His last name was Goddard or something like
that. By the way, I think that Dr Smith was played as a horrible catty,
bitchy queen stereotype. The actor was great, though.

Wallyburger

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jerry notaro Fri 10/10/97 8:41 AM

My, my, we will have stories to swap!

1. When the Toronto production of Hair opened, which ran for 2 years, the
cast members called themselves the Missasuaga Tribe, after a small
suburban area of the city. An older friend of mine from Buffalo was in the
cast for a while. Their tribe mother was June Lockart, whom they say was
VERY hip. She did grow up in Hollywood so she was no prude. She has been
getting a lot of publicity lately because of the new Lost In Space.

2. A friend of mine that I did Robber Bridegroom with in Chicago (great
show, BTW) did a low budget movie with Adam West a few years back. He said
that Robin was so well endowed that they made him strap it down after the
first few episodes because his basket was getting so much attention.

Jerry

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>Sent: Friday, October 10, 1997 1:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Angela chronology. . . .
>
>Okay, went out to the various websites -- there's
>an official "Sound of Music" website, btw! -- and
>found out that both "S of M" and "Lost in Space"
>premiered in 1965.  I seem to recall that Angela
>flew from Austria to LA to start filming the latter,
>but no doubt both were filmed in '64, as post-production
>takes time (the original "Lost in Space" pilot was
>actually reshot, with Dr. Smith and the robot added,
>as just the family alone was seen as boring.  A
>correct Hollywood decision! will wonders never cease!
>
>Meanwhile, June Lockhart spends her days watching
>NASA launches ("all those engineers say that I'm
>responsible for their job choices:  years of
>filming "Lassie" and no one wanted to be a farmer's
>wife!") and being a David Bowie groupie.  But
>I'm more impressed by the fact that she keeps
>a man in every port (certainly my motto 8')).
>
>hal
>
>

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>From: Bill Dollinger
>Sent: Friday, October 10, 1997 1:26 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Danger, Will Robinson NJC
>
>
>Most memorable episodes, in my mind-
>the one with the invisible lion and the weird kid
>the one with the giant vegetables
>the robot falls in love with an evil female robot
>
>
>Bill

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