> Franklin> You heard Mark, Colin - now go catch that last hour!!**##  lol
> I do agree with you Mark, that it was "a tad toolong on
> exposition". I could see how someone in the wrong "mood" might find  it
> a bit languid at times. But, then again - they obviously had
> nothing better than to burn time in those days (in those days???)  Funny
> how "there is nothing new under the sun". It is a good movie to  take in
> on a lazy, comfortable afternoon with a mellow friend -
> there, hows that?  I agree with the rest of your comments... Alan  Bates
> IS almost unrecognizable, and gives a brilliant performance!!

Franklin, this was the same comments I heard from people who said that
DANGEROUS LIAISONS was slow. It is, but that may be unique to their
historical (even geographic) milieu.

I agree that other people may not bein the mood to like it, but its best
watched more than once. The murder and the murderer are really quite
peripheral to the inherent difference between the unempowered and the
moneyed. Its such a good cinematic view of class issues that should
interestingly accompany Mike Leigh's films about everyday London life.

> Franklin>I'll have to "re-visit" 'Nashville'. I actually avoided
> 'Short Cuts' as I thought, from the reviews that it was "plodding"  and
> a disappointment. Dang those "reviewers" anyhoo! GRATUITOUS
> FEMALE NUDITY??!! excuse me while I run over to BlockBuster. OK, I'm
> back...LOL

Franklin, you have to watch SHORT CUTS, too. Its almost a pre-requisite
for people who love Altman. It is plodding, yes, but the other nuanced
characterizations and understanding of tragedy were so keen and acute its
almost painful.  Most especially those who have seen that kind of thing up
close.

> Franklin> The 'Player', IMO is as cool as movie-making gets... sheer
> class! Speaking of 'Touch of Evil', that was the exact "extended,
> uncut, shot" that Altman was totally skewering as pretentious (but
> wait, I LOVE pretentious - served up "well-done" of course..lol).  What
> was funny was how the reviewers raved over that opening shot!  It wasn't
> meant as homage, but as back-handed sarcasm. Oh, well - I  actually
> LOVED both those long, uncut takes! lol

You more than adequately expressed what I wanted to convey in the previous
post. Now that you said it, it reinforced what I thought I gleaned from
THE PLAYER. The problem sometimes with saying that a film is an "either
you got it or you don't" presupposes that those who got it, understood it,
while those who didn't like it, didn't. Not true, because polyfocal
conspectus tells us that everything is as true as the next man's
interpretation. This should not really be taken to mean that we all can
have widely divergent opinions about the ending of THE SOUND OF MUSIC as
the last shots sort of said what's going to happen to the Von Trapp
family, but there are movies that beg to have different interpretations
and its interesting how these interpretations are revealatory of what one
considers important.

>>>  >  > Franklin> Judy Davis! What a gal!
>>
>>She was amazing playing Judy Garland in 'Life With Judy Garland', a tv
>> movie that was adapted from Lorna Luft's book.  She was also pretty
>> convincing as Lillian Hellman in 'Hellman and Hammett'.  Much as I hate
>> to say it, she was probably a lot closer to what the real Hellman was
>> like than Jane Fonda was in 'Julia', much as I love that particular
>> movie.  Judy was also good as George Sand in 'Impromptu'.  I wonder if
>> she likes playing parts based on real people's lives?

Now that I think of it, Judy Davis was good as the sexually omnivorous
George Sand in IMPROMPTU. I heard that she was originally tapped to play
Paulina is DEATH AND THE MAIDEN, but Sigourney Weaver eventually got it. I
like the film but I wonder how Judy Davis would have handled the last
"revealation" scene.

>>Mark>I love movies.  Maybe I don't discuss them quite as in depth as
>> Franklin & Joseph but I love to talk about them.
>
> Franklin> You underrate yourself Mark! Your knowledge and insights  are
> a VERY welcome addition to this discussion.  Please, keep
> talkin', recommending, etc.

I agree with Franklin. Keep on sharing!

Robert a.k.a. Joseph in Manila ...lol

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