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> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 00:38:15 -0500
> From: vince 
> Subject: njc why criticism - 2nd attempt at
> sendinf
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> Criticism in the arts is as old as the arts. 
> The teaching of critical
> analysis of various fields of art - and other
> things - is taught, and
> has been since recorded history, and was
> certainly all the craze as far
> back as Aristotle and "Poetics."
> 
> A critical review is an important review, in
> one sense of the word, as
> in "this is of critical importance."  And
> critical views (as opposed to
> fawning reviews, ignorant reviews, puffery
> reviews) is of vital
> importance - shall I say, critical importance -
> to the study of the
> arts.
> 
> I rely on critics to evaluate what I want to
> buy, see, or experience.  I
> 
> have certain reviewers that I go to for certain
> things -Blair Kanin on
> architecture, for example, the New Yorker and
> Michael Wilmington of the
> Chicago Tribune for movies, Greg Kot of the
> Trib for concerts...
> 
> Read a critic enough and you know the standards
> and biases of the
> critic.  I could tell in two sentences from a
> Gene Siskel review if I
> wanted to see the movie or not, regardless of
> his opinion, because I
> knew what he looked for and what I look for and
> my experience of Siskel
> allowed me to make an informed decision.
> 
> Critics know a lot more than I do about the
> subject at hand, where I am
> really subjective, I trust their professional
> expertise.  I may search
> out a number of reviews, or sometimes, am
> content with one, depending on
> 
> my needs, but if I really want to know about
> something, I check many
> reviews.  I learn a great deal that way.
> 
> (And what have all of the posts on T'log been
> but critical reviews of
> the album?)
> 
> Of course there are crappy reviewers out there,
> and each reviewer has
> their places where I know my perspective
> differs.  There a few bad
> drivers out there too but I am not going to
> suggest that we ban all
> driving.
> 
> Reading Pauline Kael, Stanley Kaufman, and Gene
> Siskel taught me so much
> 
> about cinema... Blair Kanin on architecture is
> an education in each
> review...
> 
> As far as criticism, are we confusing this with
> nasty words said by
> someone who doesn't like us with a critical
> evaluation?   Never then go
> see a movie with me, for I do a critical
> commentary on every movie I see
> 
> as I leave the theater.  (Me: I thought that
> plot was weak.  Gage: Yes,
> it made no sense.)  (An outstanding moment in
> my life was with Gage's
> father, Jeremy went to see Beverly Hills Cop II
> when he was maybe 9 or
> 10 and came home and said, "dad, you were
> right, the movie sucked.  It
> was a series of disconnected scenes."  Bingo,
> kid, you got it!)
> 
> If someone attends a worship service that I
> take part in, I want
> critical commentary on me.  Did I make sense? 
> Did I present well?  Did
> I perform well?  Were my words and gestures and
> style real and sincere
> or wooden and forced?  Did I speak too fast? 
> Did I start talkin like a
> Chicagoan an drop the ends off of de wurds in a
> flat Chicago accent?
> 
> The best sermon criticism I ever had, someone
> said, "good sermon but
> your views on [that subject] are myopic." 
> Well, upon further
> examination, my views were indeed myopic! 
> Thank God for the critical
> commentary!
> 
> We had a sermon criticism class in seminary -
> we'd videotape ourselves
> and with the class review our performance, and
> if anyone saw me at the
> beginning (not that anyone has seen me now)
> you'd be as glad as I am
> that I had that class.  Any service now to this
> day that is videotaped,
> I want to see to critically evaluate my
> performance.  That is how I
> improve!  And I bet every performing artist in
> the JMDL does the same
> thing with tapes and reviews from friends.  We
> ask for, we desire, we
> lust for, we need criticism, reaction, our own
> critical analysis, so
> that we can improve.
> 
> When I served as a chaplain at the U of
> Michigan Medical Center, we had
> small groups called IPR groups in which we
> would critique each other's
> interactions with patients.  Damn did I learn a
> lot!  It was essential
> to my growth in being a very good pastoral
> visitor now, and having
> learned the verbatim/critical response process,
> I can "IPR" myself on
> every visit and see where I missed something,
> where my approach was
> wrong, where I wasn't listening, where I said
> something that mattered to
> 
> the patient.
> 
> Last Stones tour they were roundly criticized
> for formula performing.
> They took it to heart.  The current tour is
> amazing, and I doubt it
> would have been had it not been for the reviews
> that suggested that
> Rolling Stones, Inc. was selling a tired
> corporate product.  The current
> 
> tour is far improved.
> 
> I learned so much in life reading book reviews,
> I can't imagine where
> I'd be today without those little seminars each
> week.  In last Sunday's
> Chicago Tribune, an excellent review on Charles
> Bowden's Down By the
> River, a book on the drug cartels and their
> interdependency with the
> political aristocracy of Mexico, followed by a
> review on a subject of
> which i knew less than I do now,. the
> pioneering role of women in social
> 
> activism in Chicago in the post Chicago Fire
> period which set the stage
> for Jane Adams and Hull House and a total
> re-definition of what it meant
> 
> to assist those in need.
> 
> As far as studying criticism, any good school
> with a cinema department
> will have classes in criticism.  Hell, in
> seminary, I studied Biblical
> textual criticism, historical criticism,
> redaction criticism, among
> others, all vital to understanding the
> Scriptures and unlocking passages
> 
> and solving those passages which seemingly make
> no sense and finding
> depths of meaning.
> 
> Art criticism - a subject unto itself and I
> learned art appreciation by
> reading the critics and reviewers.
> 
> Criticism is not trash talking.  Criticism is a
> good thing.  Of course
> it can be done meanly, in spite, and that
> perhaps happens far more in
> our personal lives than in our public lives. 
> We have all been trash
> talked to the point of pain and tears and we
> can all cite reviews that
> just plain are no good.
> 
> But that does not negate the essential and
> positive role that critical
> study, critical reviews, play in our own growth
> and understanding of
> ourselves and the arts.
> 
> The simple sentence: Joni Mitchell is
> ______________ artist.  Whatever
> you put there, is a critical comment.
> 
> Which recorded version of Woodstock do we like
> best?  The answer is a
> critical study of her various versions - not
> that critical means
> negative, it simply means a thoughtful
> examination based on one's
> knowledge, insights, and feelings.   And
> because each critical review is
> 
> not only objective ("her jazziest version") it
> is also subjective, and
> thus, I need either one very skilled critic
> whom I can rely upon (I know
> 
> the biases and the amount of knowledge and can
> make my own judgment
> accordingly) or we need 800 critics to give us
> a body of critical
> studies from which to draw.  And has not each
> of us had our
> understandings of T'log enhanced by the number
> of critical (not
> negative, but evaluative) comments posted on
> these boards?
> 
> When I write something important I circulate
> the text amongst people I
> trust and beg for, pled for critical comments,
> not just proof reading,
> but critical comments.  And, for example, on my
> last paper, Laurent
> found a serious flaw in my application of a
> descriptive word on a series
> 
> of events that indeed not all of them fit that
> description.  Since on
> that description my paper rises or falls,
> Laurent's critical comment
> (not negative, but critical, evaluative) was
> essential to fixing a fatal
> 
> flaw in the paper, as well as challenge me on
> some too easy assumption I
> 
> made and forced me to think and rethink in that
> area - so it was all
> good.  The critical process is essential to the
> production of good
> work.  (Another friend made some critical
> comments that were less than
> insightful and I noted them but the impacted
> nothing.  Not all criticism
> 
> is equally valid.  And the friend who
> contributed nothing to me this
> time has made wonderful contributions through
> criticism in the past, and
> 
> will again, i hope.)
> 
> Last word; I did a public prayer at a community
> Thanksgiving service
> which brought together two communities that
> never do anything
> together.   I worked very hard to work in some
> humor - ever try to write
> 
> a prayer with humor in it and not make the
> prayer a joke?  - with some
> simple jump points that would cause a sudden
> inversion of the symbol so
> that a new meaning would be lifted up: i.e., we
> give thanks not for what
> 
> we have or want, but rather, we give thanks for
> what God has: us.
> 
> So here is me, flaming leftist, with my prayer
> with humor that inverts
> the old understandings for new meanings and I
> got knowing laughs (no one
> 
> laughs during prayer, it was a milestone new
> achievement and I loved it
> as the humor was not in the joke which didn't
> exist but in the irony of
> human life that is funny), a few humorous quips
> from the congregation
> (at least they were involved in the prayer!)
> and accomplished my goal of
> 
> waking every one up to hang onto my next word
> rather than snooze through
> 
> another typical, boring thanksgiving prayer. 
> Then I did several symbol
> inversions, ending with the major symbol
> inversion re-emphasized as
> *the* point.
> 
> Results: the very conservative preacher made a
> point of my "great
> prayer" and  two rather conservative pastors
> commented that they loved
> my familiar, easy way of talking to God in
> public prayer as if it were a
> 
> real conversation and not church talk (aha!  I
> did it!) as well as grab
> common symbols from the gathered community that
> made the prayer about
> their reality, not about "spiritual" things
> (aha! I did it!) and the
> other  conservative pastor said it was "really
> God-centered" which
> indeed was the attempt with the inversion of
> symbols.  So I got
> reinforcing critical comments.  Which was cool.
>  And had someone pointed
> 
> out something that could have ben better, where
> my attempt did not work
> as well as I had hoped, that would have been
> valuable as well so that I
> can improve my ability to do this.
> 
> Long and boring, but I feel compelled to
> support the good and utterly
> essential role that critical evaluation,
> critical comments, critical
> reviews play in improving and understanding the
> arts and public
> performance.
> 
> the ever boring (self criticism at its finest)
> Vince
> 
> 
> PS I would affirm that Britney Spears is a
> major talent, and a better
> talent, in the world of dance tunes usable in
> aerobics classes - a sub
> category of music in which she excels and Joni
> sucks, unless Joni is big
> 
> time re-mixed and not always then.  Will
> Britney last?  I think not.
> But she has her niche, and she does her niche
> art well.  The fact that
> other than its application in aerobics I have
> little use for it is just
> a factor of my life.
> 
> The critical study of office furniture is a
> major concern of Herman
> Miller, located about 30 miles from me, where
> criticism of function,
> structure, lay out, and ergonomics of office
> furniture allows them to
> improve their products.  Many people are in
> that field, critically
> analyzing office furniture, and every time I
> set in my new office chair,
> 
> I am thankful.  And I look to those people with
> a key to getting the
> feng shi of my office right. too.
> 
> more boring - that's me!
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> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 02:03:03 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Today in History: November 25
> 
> 1976: Joni joined The Band's "Last Waltz" at
> the Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco.  She
> sang backup to Neil Young on "Helpless" and
> with The Band on "Acadian Driftwood", performs
> "Coyote", "Shadows And Light", and "Furry Sings
> The Blues", and joins Bob Dylan, Van Morrison,
> Neil Diamond, Dr John, and others for the grand
> finale "I Shall Be Released."
> More info:
> http://www.jonimitchell.com/LastWaltz.html     
> - ----
> For a comprehensive reference to Joni's
> appearances,
> consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of
> Appearances:
> http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html
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> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 02:03:03 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Today's Library Links: November 25
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> On November 25 the following items were
> published:
> 
> 
> 1970: "Alberta-born Singer Gets Raves in
> London" - Alberta Herald
>     (Review - Concert) 
>    
> http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=431
>       
> 
> 1982: "More Songs About Love From Joni
> Mitchell" - Rolling Stone
>     (Review - Album) 
>    
> http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=303
>       
> 
> 1982: "Wild Things Run Fast" - Rolling Stone
>     (Interview, with photographs) 
>    
> http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=302
>       
> 
> 1994: "Thirty Years With a Portable Lover" -
> Los Angeles Weekly
>     (Biography, with photographs) 
>    
> http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=165
>       
> 
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