Andrew wrote:

> but I just wanted to interject a few thoughts on
> Joni's much-maligned work in the '80s.

Until Joni, I thought the entire decade, musically was generally a waste.
But no longer.



 Critics
> either ignored it or tore it to shreds

Critics.   Who cares?   Those who can do, those who can't talk about it, or
deride it.
>


> Even Joni has some misgivings about her 80s work:  her
> difficulty with Thomas Dolby, some trouble with
> Klein's melodies,

Too bad that wasn't a double album.



> Dog Eat Dog is growing on me. I hated it at first and
> thought it was a really shoddy album, overtly
> technological with lyrics that were slack, at best.

Course, make no secret about my feelings on this one, or anything else for
that matter.  lol   Then again, why should we?  Really unusual but it
grabbed me immediately and still can't get enough of it.   I do find the
lyrics incomparable but the musical tone is what drew me into it in the
first place.   The marriage of the two takes it over the top.  So subtle in
so many ways.  Rod Steiger as the preacher, interjected  into the places
meant only for him.  'i am preaching love, i am.'   For someone coming from
the pew about which she sings does bring much more into it for me.  There
are many Joni tunes that have lyrics befitting perfection yet the lack of
equitable music ruins them for me.


> But there is enormous subtlety and magic in some of
> those songs, in the music, in the voice, in the
> lyrics. Good Friends, Fiction, Dog Eat Dog and
> Ethiopia are brilliant, in my opinion.

You are quite right on in your analysis. You have great insights.


> Dog Eat Dog was ahead of its time, albeit a little
> earnest in its drive to sound like a product of the
> 80s.

Visionary but I don't agree with the earnestness to sound 80's.  I simply
Joan was trying to do something new and as for the sentiments, damn,
couldn't have done them better, in my opinion.  I don't even think it
sounded 80's.  The 80's were so bad.................................


> Gabriel, Billy Idol and Willie Nelson her way. And,
> why not?

I haven't completed my Joni catalog but find the guest artists on DED only
made it better.  Have a new respect for Dolby now.  Well, respect, I had
none before.


>
> Joni is no more perfect than you or I

Now, examine that statement closely Andrew.  lol


Glad to read you as always.


mack

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