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Today's Topics:
1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
From: Fred Sullivan<[email protected]>
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2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC
2010 to
learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local
version and
created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with
Drupal.
> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's
coding,
documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the
attendees
where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many
things it
was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher
technical
proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books
are end
designer and users manuals.
Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
has been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more
on basic
level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer.
Joomla as
percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate
in the
community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla
community needs
to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid
level
programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including
more in
their core to grow their end user community.
Fred Sullivan
@fredjet
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
From: Mark Simko<[email protected]>
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Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
From: Gary Mort<[email protected]>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
From: Mitch Pirtle<[email protected]>
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To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
than just Joomla.
I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
-- Mitch
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
From: Gary Mort<[email protected]>
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<[email protected]> wrote:
Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now
after
doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I
wanted it
to. One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than
Magento[in
fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on
Drupal vs
Joomla.... terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know
what.
Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
different things. Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
while hooks in drupal you need to lookup. The Joomla extensions
directory,
for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know
what
your looking for more clearly.
All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of
Drupal....but I
still prefer Joomla.
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