On 9/2/2010 10:54 AM, Herb Tucker wrote:
Hi Paul,
Here are some links I ferreted out when setting up Subversion (SVN) for my
development process.

http://f6design.com/journal/2009/12/23/subversion-for-web-development-part-1
/
http://www.theartofjoomla.com/home/9-developer/13-setting-up-joomla-sites-wi
th-svn.html
http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/SVN-Notify-Mirror-0.038/lib/SVN/Notify/Mirr
or/SSH.pm
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/07/using-svn-for-web-development/
http://gup.sonhuynh.net/2010/01/24/how-to-use-subversion-post-commit-hook-to
-automatically-update-your-web-site/
http://blog.circlesixdesign.com/2007/04/10/beginning-svn-journey/
http://www.svnforum.org/
Will check out these links right away ... thanks!
I have a local dev server and then setup  a remote test server that has the
same environment as the production site.
I'm not using SCM on all the files in Joomla, only the ones that I'm working
on. This does require a little more tracking effort on my part and I would
like to version the entire installation but every time I've attempted to
"Add" and entire Joomla install SVN would throw errors.
I am having similar issues. For me, this is because extensions are installed via the admin interface, which means apache owns the files. So when using SVN, your users usually does not have permission to add .svn folders in these directories. What happens to me is that I end up getting my whole project svn locked, and needs a more technical person to resolve (which means I will have to help everyone on my team fix).

3rd party extensions and the Joomla source should not really be part of your source code. Would be great to use svn:externals here but that is not always possible. Another solution is to use Phing, to help "build" a project, but I do not know of way to programmatically install an extension. That would be great as phing could test if the extension exists, if it does not, it could install on that users joomla install. Once again, not sure how I could integrate phing into a designer's toolbox (for example if they are used to using Dreamweaver).

I played around some with Bazaar and Mercurial but after spending days
wading through tons of info and doing as much testing as I could I had to
get at least some versioning system running for my projects and I settled on
Subversion (SVN) as it's been the easiest to grok. I use TortoiseSVN which
is a GUI for the SVN executable.
I'm hosting my repositories for free at https://projectlocker.com/  There
are limitations for the free account (5 users, 500MB storage all
repositories) and with three projects under SVN I'm approaching the size
limits. Their for fee services are very affordable and they also host Git
repositories as well.

Cheers!

Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: [email protected]
W: www.covenanttek.com
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:14:06 -0400
From: Paul Bouzakis<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [joomla] Team Development
Message-ID:<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

   What are some best practices building a Joomla site with a team.

I am currently joining a company where they currently are editing code
on the live servers.   This is not a good situation, and I have heard of
some disaster stories in the company where people were overwriting their
work, and by mistake deleting/moving files.

I would love to get a development environment setup including
incorporating SVN.  I am used to developing custom php web applications,
where all configuration and code are in files.  With Joomla, some
configuration (usually extensions) are in the DB.

I have some ideas, but they require the developer to run scripts.  Some
of the people tweaking the code are really just front end designers,
they need to go in and update the css, and an image, etc.

What is the best way to manage a team of designers and developers to
develop, build and deploy a Joomla site.  I really can not find any good
resources online.

Cheers,
Paul


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