Thanks for jumping in Matt. I can't wait to see Joomla 3.0 with Twitter Bootstrap. It will be great to have Joomla with native HTML5 support.
- - - Steve On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Stephen Britton <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Janet Sullivan > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks Steve. A couple of follow-up questions, if I may. >> "The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML" >> Is this a reference to the chrome browser or does chrome refer to a >> joomla-ism? >> >> If you do not build or heavily modify Joomla templates, you don't have to > worry about Module Chrome. If you are not making your own HTML5 Joomla > templates, please ignore the rest of my answer. > > Module Chrome refers to the tags that go around the module placements. For > example, the most common module tag is style="xhtml", this puts xhtml > tags around the module. > > But HTML5 is different from XHTML. So if you used the HTML5 overrides from > Seth's One Web, you would use style="html5" and this would create Module > Chome that will comply with HTML5 standards (although, even HTML5 standards > is a open topic these days). > > >> I can sort of see where html5boilerplate may be a problem, but I would >> have thought modernizr would work because all it does is >> test browser capabilities and add a bunch of classes to the CSS. The >> additional classes make is easy to degrade a drop shadow, for example >> to a plain border. >> >> "So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need >> to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the >> code in com_content." >> "Although, the major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 >> templates, notably JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo " >> If I put these two points together, does that mean if I want >> to use any of the HTML5 templates from JoomlArt or Bambbo, I have a lot of >> work to do to change the com_content? >> I assume changing the com-content means mucking around with >> the php code? >> What type of third party library would I need to look for? >> > > Sorry about the confusion. Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that > everyone knows how Joomla overrides and templates work. > > No. You do not have to do any coding. If you make your own templates, you > can just drag and drop the html5 override code from One Web or Construct > Framework and drop it into the override directory. The people from One Web > and Construct have done all the coding for you. They have spent all the > time rewriting the code in com_content so it will work with HTML5. > > One of Joomla's best features is you can override the core Joomla code by > creating an override folder in the template files. This allows you to > change the core code without touching the actual core code. This way, you > are free to experiment and not worry about destroying the Joomla core code. > > By far the easiest way to get an HTML5 Joomla template would be to > purchase one from a commercial company like JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo. > Most of these companies use Modernizr or something like it so the templates > will work in older browsers. > > My apologies for making this topic seems harder than it probably is. > > All best, > > Steve > > > >> >> Thanks! >> >> Janet Sullivan >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Stephen Britton <[email protected]> >> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:35 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com >> >> HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5 >> sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in >> conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla >> templates. >> >> The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the >> major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates, notably >> JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo. >> >> The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have >> been told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support >> HTML5. So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you >> need to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of >> the code in com_content. >> >> The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla >> templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework >> http://construct-framework.com/ >> >> And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download >> Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have >> done. >> http://internet-inspired.com/ >> >> JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not >> personally checked them out yet. >> http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates >> >> - - - Steve >> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla >> templates? >> Do most commercial templates work with these tools? or is it hit and >> miss? If someone has >> had good results with a particular template using these tools, please >> identify the template... >> Thanks! >> >> Janet Sullivan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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