On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Frederik Ramm wrote:
These days, I'm thinking maybe we should add something - namely a
reference to our "mechanical edit" guidelines. Almost 100% of all
incidents where someone makes large-scale "typo fixes" or other changes
(random example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17462977)
involve JOSM, and most of them violate the guidelines because people
didn't think about discussing their planned changes.
(Our rule is, in a nutshell: If you personally look at every object you
change then it's fine; if however you select all objects that have a
certain property and then change that globally without even noticing
which countries you're editing in then that's a mechanical edit that
requires prior discussion to make sure you're not breaking things
inadvertently.)
Then again, maybe a link to that is too special for most users. Should
we instead add another pre-upload check that would say something like
"you are uploading a changeset with a very large bounding box, please
make sure you conform to the <link> guidelines" (or "you are uploading a
very large number of new objects..." since many people seem to use JOSM
as an uploader for homemade imports as well).
Thoughts?
I doubt that upload checks will really be helpful, as already today we
have the problem, that even error-state validator warnings get ignored.
I understand your intend, but actually I don't really see a solution for
these.
On one side JOSM is the accepted expert tool. It allows to use it in a
very broad range of situations. I don't intent to limit that as e.g. Bruce
suggests. OSM developed very well and very likely the high freedom is a
major part in that development.
On the other hand that freedom allows everybody to do a lot of damage when
misused.
Maybe this warning idea is less disturbing than an new dialog: When in
non-expert mode we could display an on map note (like for filter), which
shows a link to the guideline, when we have to large bounding box or too
many changed objects. For non-experts it is more likely that they don't do
that on purpose.
Ciao
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