On Sun, 19 Feb 2017, Holger Mappt wrote:
It would be interesting to know how important translations are. Maybe it is
okay for most of the users to use the English version.
The last days:
8079 (31.7%) en
5489 (21.5%) de
2615 (10.3%) ru
2157 ( 8.5%) fr
1541 ( 6.0%) en_GB
1018 ( 4.0%) es
849 ( 3.3%) it
709 ( 2.8%) pl
468 ( 1.8%) ja
426 ( 1.7%) nl
311 ( 1.2%) zh_TW
309 ( 1.2%) pt_BR
239 ( 0.9%) zh_CN
223 ( 0.9%) cs
186 ( 0.7%) en_AU
175 ( 0.7%) hu
126 ( 0.5%) sv
101 ( 0.4%) id
92 ( 0.4%) uk
81 ( 0.3%) sk
57 ( 0.2%) da
49 ( 0.2%) fi
48 ( 0.2%) pt
45 ( 0.2%) ca
39 ( 0.2%) lt
31 ( 0.1%) el
17 ( 0.1%) nb
5 ( 0.0%) be
3 ( 0.0%) tr
3 ( 0.0%) bg
2 ( 0.0%) et
2 ( 0.0%) gl
1 ( 0.0%) vi
1 ( 0.0%) ast
62% use a non-english version. That number would probably be higher if the
translations in some languages would be better.
I think one of the issues is the enormous number of strings. We reached 10000
a few weeks ago. And there is a pretty high update frequency. You need days
to catch up if no translation was done for a few months.
Yes. That's obvious. That burden can only be reduced when distributed to
more shoulders (althought single people did translate thousands of texts).
Here everybody with more than 3000 translations:
14921 - pitort - ca = 7959 - ca@valencia= 6962
10844 - andygol - ru = 290 - uk =10554
10486 - Viktar Palsciuk - be =10486
10451 - mmyfl - zh_CN=10451
10195 - Dirk Stöcker - de = 5146 (others: many languages as fixes)
10080 - aceman444 - cs = 5220 - sk = 4860
8594 - Minh Nguyễn - vi = 8594
8132 - DiGro - nl = 8132
7543 - edrux - ast = 7524 - es = 19
7512 - Davide Prade - it = 7512
7441 - RPome - pt = 7441
6726 - fujimoto - ja = 6726
6186 - Casiope
5972 - Chao-Hsiung Liao - zh_TW= 5972
5698 - Jørn - da = 5698
5694 - Dalibor Jelínek - cs = 5693 - sk = 1
5656 - Báthory Péter - hu = 5656
5633 - Casiope - fr = 5633
5335 - Felipe L. - pt_BR= 5335
4710 - Vlado - sk = 4710
4562 - Dee-earlsoft - en_GB= 4562
3873 - Emilio Gomez Fernandez - es = 3872 - fr = 1
3858 - Sophea Sok - km = 3858
3720 - Aleksey Kabanov - ru = 3720
3584 - Robert Readman - en_AU= 3266 - en_GB= 318
3309 - Ettore Atalan - de = 3309
3110 - Rui - pt = 3110
3097 - Hiroshi Miura - ja = 3097
3035 - Vitor George - pt_BR= 3035
Another issue is the quality of the strings. Some source strings are not
English (but French, Dutch, Polish, etc), have unknown acronyms in it, or
These are bugs and should be fixed.
it's just not clear what the string is about. That mainly affects plugins and
the imagery. I sometimes open a ticket if the quality is bad. JOSM core
tickets are resolved promptly, but plugin authors are lazy or don't respond
Yes. That's an issue. The success of JOSM has some drawbacks and
unmaintained plugins is one of them. The core developers try to manage
them, but we already have lots of core issues. No solution for this ATM.
For things like translating issues tickets should nevertheless be opened.
They are usually easy to fix and thus also easy to handle by the core
team.
at all. There is no good way to address issues with the imagery strings
(there is actually no way).
See answers in related ticket #12179.
One solution could be to separate the JOSM core strings from the plugin and
imagery strings. Then translators can concentrate on the JOSM core, it would
reduce the timeout errors, and it becomes doable to actually translate all
(core) strings.
The other solution would be the long discussed migration to transifex. It
includes also the splitting in 3 string groups.
Plugins are a different topic. I think there is no way to attract people to
translate a large number of strings that nobody will ever read. An idea would
be to rank the untranslated strings by the number of plugin installations (do
we know this?) to start with the important strings. But Launchpad sorts them
alphabetically, not by importance.
Oh. We know EVERYTHING :-) Don't ask me why this list has reversed order
to the languages though - probably I implemented them at different
times...
4 (* 0.1%) NanoLog
10 (* 0.2%) matsim
15 (* 0.2%) videomapping
22 (* 0.3%) sds
27 (* 0.4%) globalsat
32 (* 0.5%) czechaddress
35 (* 0.6%) michigan_left
35 (* 0.6%) epci-fr
37 (* 0.6%) plastic_laf
38 (* 0.6%) native_password_manager
41 (* 0.6%) wms-turbo-challenge2
45 (* 0.7%) canvec_helper
46 (* 0.7%) scoutsigns
48 (* 0.8%) OSMRecPlugin
48 (* 0.8%) surveyor
50 (* 0.8%) touchscreenhelper
51 (* 0.8%) o5m
51 (* 0.8%) pointInfo
51 (* 0.8%) TombPlugin
54 (* 0.9%) SeaChart
57 (* 0.9%) indoor_sweepline
60 (* 0.9%) Tracer
61 (* 1.0%) rex
71 (* 1.1%) junctionchecking
71 (* 1.1%) Tracer-testing
75 (* 1.2%) ColumbusCSV
82 (* 1.3%) indoorhelper
83 (* 1.3%) pt_assistant
89 (* 1.4%) imagery-xml-bounds
94 (* 1.5%) gpsblam
98 (* 1.5%) osm-obj-info
99 (* 1.6%) conflation
100 (* 1.6%) CADTools
103 (* 1.6%) CommandLine
106 (* 1.7%) colorscheme
107 (* 1.7%) CustomizePublicTransportStop
109 (* 1.7%) rasterfilters
111 (* 1.8%) tagging-preset-tester
114 (* 1.8%) waypoint_search
115 (* 1.8%) livegps
116 (* 1.8%) namemanager
120 (* 1.9%) ImageWayPoint
121 (* 1.9%) mbtiles
122 (* 1.9%) ImproveWay
130 (* 2.1%) DxfImport
131 (* 2.1%) SeaMapEditor
132 (* 2.1%) kendzi3d_Improved_by_Andrei
134 (* 2.1%) openvisible
134 (* 2.1%) routes
138 (* 2.2%) ColorPlugin
142 (* 2.2%) Create_grid_of_ways
147 (* 2.3%) ImproveOsm
154 (* 2.4%) lakewalker
154 (* 2.4%) InfoMode
159 (* 2.5%) importvec
159 (* 2.5%) OpenStreetCam
161 (* 2.5%) walkingpapers
162 (* 2.6%) ShapeTools
168 (* 2.7%) tag2link
168 (* 2.7%) tofix
169 (* 2.7%) jna
173 (* 2.7%) auto_tools
176 (* 2.8%) splinex
176 (* 2.8%) areaselector
184 (* 2.9%) Tracer2
185 (* 2.9%) gpxfilter
189 (* 3.0%) mapdust
195 (* 3.1%) public_transport_layer
200 (* 3.2%) routing
209 (* 3.3%) dataimport
211 (* 3.3%) cadastre-fr
214 (* 3.4%) graphview
214 (* 3.4%) kendzi3d
215 (* 3.4%) ElevationProfile
229 (* 3.6%) fieldpapers
232 (* 3.7%) photoadjust
233 (* 3.7%) gson
237 (* 3.7%) scripting
245 (* 3.9%) pdfimport
245 (* 3.9%) BuildingGeneralization
249 (* 3.9%) ext_tools
253 (* 4.0%) SimplifyArea
261 (* 4.1%) poly
261 (* 4.1%) osmarender
268 (* 4.2%) AddrInterpolation
275 (* 4.3%) kendzi3d-resources
281 (* 4.4%) imageryadjust
291 (* 4.6%) waydownloader
292 (* 4.6%) todo
306 (* 4.8%) geojson
316 (* 5.0%) DirectDownload
317 (* 5.0%) jogl
326 (* 5.1%) geochat
336 (* 5.3%) photo_geotagging
360 (* 5.7%) alignways
365 (* 5.8%) merge-overlap
369 (* 5.8%) DirectUpload
378 (* 6.0%) turnlanes-tagging
386 (* 6.1%) print
420 (* 6.6%) continuosDownload
435 (* 6.9%) pbf
451 (* 7.1%) public_transport
452 (* 7.1%) contourmerge
493 (* 7.8%) download_along
509 (* 8.0%) FixAddresses
517 (* 8.2%) ImportImagePlugin
540 (* 8.5%) wikipedia
558 (* 8.8%) RoadSigns
573 (* 9.0%) turnlanes
579 (* 9.1%) tageditor
583 (* 9.2%) editgpx
585 (* 9.2%) FastDraw
671 (*10.6%) undelete
672 (*10.6%) reltoolbox
708 (*11.2%) HouseNumberTaggingTool
718 (*11.3%) terracer
792 (*12.5%) Mapillary
804 (*12.7%) imagery_offset_db
862 (*13.6%) OpeningHoursEditor
963 (*15.2%) apache-http
1073 (*16.9%) measurement
1167 (*18.4%) opendata
1204 (*19.0%) PicLayer
1232 (*19.4%) reverter
1328 (*21.0%) log4j
1717 (*27.1%) geotools
1730 (*27.3%) ejml
1812 (*28.6%) apache-commons
1832 (*28.9%) jts
2342 (*37.0%) buildings_tools
2365 (*37.3%) utilsplugin2
3994 (*63.0%) turnrestrictions
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