Dear Friends, Many people believe in temperance, being moderate in the consumption of alcoholic beverages, but are strongly opposed to excessive drinking. The safest, most scriptural answer is complete abstinence, for temperance may get broader than one can control. Now this example of Jesus changing water to wine (John 2:1-11) has often been used in discussions, with the point being put that the Saviour gave permission for wine at a wedding. What kind of wine did Jesus create in John 2? The Greek word is 'oinos' meaning grape juice while the word for intoxicating liquor is 'shekar'. Can we find the 2 words in some verse. Lets look at Luke 1:15, "For he(John the Baptist) shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine (oinos) nor strong drink (shekar)." Prov.20:1, "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." God doesn't want us to be deceived by liquor. So I would agree to ABSTINENCE(no drinking) rather than TEMPERANCE(moderate drinking). Thanks. George Fernandes. ********************************************************************** This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] To know more about Jesus Youth, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org **********************************************************************