Ariel,
if you need to bifurcate in the event system I suggest to test for:

  document.createEventObject()

in this way you prevent the problem John is telling
since Opera never implemented that event method.

Diego

On 13 Gen, 19:06, Ariel Flesler <afles...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't this good enough ?
>
> IE = !!document.attachEvent;
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM, kangax <kan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 13, 10:17 am, Diego Perini <diego.per...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Kanagax,
> >> agree with you about "using (or not) frames" being irrelevant if the
> >> is objective is met. I was talking about reducing a bit the code size
> >> were possible, feature testing is more costly in byte size.
>
> >> Please tell me how a 3d party is going to create problem with those
> >> testing I am really interested into improve them if possible.
>
> >> You see, the "document.fileSize" property in IE is read-only, and it
> >> is of a type the user cannot create himself that I know, but would be
> >> very interested in how the user could create a variable of type
> >> "unknown", especially how to I create an "unknown" variable in FF /
> >> Opera / Webkit / Konqueror or mobile web browsers ???
>
> > Your snippet didn't test for typeof "unknown", but rather for  "!=
> > 'undefined'". Sorry if I missed something. If a 3rd party script
> > defines `document.fileSize` in non-IE browser, your proposed `IE`
> > boolean will have a false positive:
>
> > // run this in Firefox
> > document.fileSize = 1024;
> > IE = typeof document.fileSize != 'undefined';
> > IE; // true
>
> > [...]
>
> > --
> > kangax
>
> --
> Ariel Fleslerhttp://flesler.blogspot.com
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