Rick, from what I understand the reason we singled out Safari was we were
having an issue with fadeIn, here is the code I found in subversion:
if ($.browser.safari) {
// Safari fadeIn fix- just display it straight.
$("#components a.SingleImage" + currentPage +
"_plcSideContent1").css("display", "inline");
}
else {
$("#components a.SingleImage" + currentPage +
"_plcSideContent1").fadeIn("fast");
}
I'll have to get more info if you need it from the developer that posted it
when he get's back from lunch.
Thanks,
Ralph
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Rick Waldron <[email protected]>wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> I'm just sort of curious... could you post up the $.browser.safari scenario
> (explanation of goal as well as code used to reach said goal)?
>
> A little curious to see what was trying to be achieved.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Whitbeck
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> From my experience, I clicked on those guides in the docs and I felt
>> overwhelmed with information when I was looking for a quick solution to my
>> problem. Just my two cents.
>>
>> As per the SO discussion I just wanted to highlight the comments mostly
>> where developers say it's deprecated don't use it and the other developers
>> asking then what to do instead.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM, John Resig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Re-wording the documentation from 'deprecated' to 'strongly discourage
>>> the use of' (or something similar) might be ok. I'm not sure what else
>>> we can do on our end - we already link to a number of guides that
>>> provide good information on the subject matter.
>>>
>>> As to the linked Stack Overflow discussion - perhaps injecting a rule
>>> into the stylesheet and then detecting to see if the rule sticks might
>>> work (not sure, just guessing off-hand).
>>>
>>> --John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ralph Whitbeck<[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > As of 1.3 $.browser is listed as deprecated in support of
>>> jQuery.support.
>>> > The thinking is that developers should be basing their checks on
>>> > functionality instead of user agent strings.
>>> >
>>> > I think this is throwing a lot of novice jQuery users as they see the
>>> word
>>> > deprecated and think that they shouldn't use it as the method is going
>>> > away. From my understanding that method isn't going away.
>>> > (http://osdir.com/ml/misc/2009-01/msg00001.html "According to John R,
>>> > $.browser and version will remain in the core indefinitely, despite
>>> being
>>> > deprecated...") For some cases it's really difficult to determine what
>>> > piece of functionality to use to get the desired result. For instance,
>>> > today, I noticed a coworker used $.browser.safari to build code
>>> specific to
>>> > a Safari issue we were having. Knowing that $.browser was listed as
>>> > deprecated I went to find the correct way to segment out safari using
>>> > $.support() unfortunately based on the docs I found this to be
>>> impossible to
>>> > easily determine which is the best approach to use and I am still not
>>> sure
>>> > it's possible.
>>> >
>>> > I did some research to see if there was an easy way to segment Safari
>>> from
>>> > the rest using $.support() and found this thread on Stack Overflow that
>>> > seems to support developer confusion on the issue.
>>> >
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/584285/detecting-ie6-using-jquery-support
>>> >
>>> > Developers want to do the right thing and listing the method as
>>> deprecated
>>> > flags the developer to avoid that method at all costs. I think it
>>> would be
>>> > better to list the method as not a "best practice" instead of
>>> deprecated and
>>> > explain why functionality checks are better then user agent sniffing.
>>> >
>>> > Also it would be good to flush out some scenarios for developers to use
>>> > which functionality test for certain browsers and certain scenarios.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts? Am I off base on this?
>>> >
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>
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