>  // Safari mis-reports the default selected property of a hidden
> option
>  // Accessing the parent's selectedIndex property fixes it
>  if ( name == "selected" && elem.parentNode ) {
>    elem.parentNode.selectedIndex;
>  }
>
> I previously made two points:
> 1) This code will not work of the <option> is in an <optgroup>
> (common)

Filed and fixed. http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/5701

> After some discussion with colleagues, ...

Heh.

>  // Safari mis-reports the default selected property of a hidden
> option
>  // Accessing the parent's selectedIndex property fixes it
>  if ( name == "selected" && elem.parentNode ) {
>    elem.parentNode.selectedIndex;
>  }
>
> with these:
>
>  if (name=="selected") {
>   return getOptionSelected(elem);
>  }
>
> Then you'll have a more robust, feature-tested, efficient, correctly-
> documented fix to this "problem".

As it is the overhead to the existing fix is very minimal, has no
function calls, no DOM manipulation, and is only 6 lines of code (even
with the optgroup fix).

Doing a bit more research I found a very similar problem when you use
dynamically-created optgroups in IE. I found a feature detect that was
able to detect the specific logic in Webkit and IE and skip the
property accesses if not necessary.

Filed and fixed: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/5702

> Again, though, my suggestion is to just remove it. I don't think
> generalized library code should try to normalize behavior that is not
> demanded by the specs and that can be easily corrected through proper
> HTML.

Although, I seem to remember having a very heated discussion wherein
you advocated that our position of asking users to specify a doctype
to animate element width/height to 0 in IE 6 was too extreme and that
we shouldn't be making demands of a user's markup. (Granted that is
likely the only place where we make such a demand: We just ask the
users to provide a document that validates first.)

Thanks for the pointers. In the future, filing individual
tickets/patches/test cases will be quite helpful.

--John

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