The main idea is: 1. Allow the publisher to determine which rendering engine to display the page in. 2. Do it in an unobtrusive way so Google SEO is still happy and we are still working with HTML, CSS and jQuery 3. Only need to develop 1 version of a page in the normal way (although testing on multiple browsers wouldn't be needed)
The reason this came up is because of Adobe AIR. If you use Adobe AIR you get really close to this. Adobe (with 98% penteration and trust in the market) is in a unique position to change the web. Think about sIFR. It works because it's unobtrusive and relies on a plugin that everyone has. I am extending the sIFR idea by saying, why not replace the css engine too in an unobtrusive way? Alot depends on what Adobe does. But if they allow embedded AIR, then this would be possible and the user would never know. Its surprising to me how immediately everyone is saying, "bad idea". Is sIFR a bad idea? Glen On 7/30/07, Roger Ineichen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Christof > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Christof Donat > > Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juli 2007 11:53 > > An: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > > Betreff: [jQuery] Re: OT: A Big Idea > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to comment your blogpost, but could not register. Anyway. > > > > > http://commadot.com/?p=581 > > > > > > I would love your thoughts on it. > > > > I don't understand, why people think that this idea is so > > great, but i'm not 100% shure if I have really understood it. > > > > Do you whant to use a HTML rendering engine inside flash or > > do you whant to use a HTML rendering plugin? > > > > I case you whant to use a HTML renderer in flash. Why? You > > can use flash for any rendering stuff if you need exact > > virusal reproduction. What do you gain when you give HTML to > > the flash film? > > > > In case you'd like a HTML plugin. Why? People won't install > > it, because basically their browser does HTML rendering for > > them. And they don't care about standards, otherwise noone > > would ever have used Netscape 2 or Internet Explorer 6. > > > > I understand you whant a single rendering engine to make > > shure that your HTML/CSS code always looks the same. I don't. > > > > 1. The web has never been designed to give you exactly the > > same results everywhere. It has been designed to give the > > user the best possible access to the information independent > > from his eventual disabilities. Use the tool as it is and > > don't complain that your hammer is not a saw. > > I'm pretty sure the web in a couple years whould be the same but > the tools will drasticly change. Take a look and see what's > going on right now. > > > 2. If you still need exact visual reproduction of something, > > there is always flash. You can not have accessability and > > exact visual reproduction at the same time as much as you > > never can exactly measure position and momentum at the same time. > > That's the idea behind it. They like to change this in the future. > Isn't that a good idea? > > > 3. We have had a browser engine to rule them all, IE, but > > noone ever liked it. > > You just change the dictator but stay in domination. Having > > multiple browser engines gives the users back their freedom > > of choice. For web developers an designers it sometimes is a > > pita, but in the whole it is better to have a pita for some > > and freedom or all. > > I guess the idea behind the concept is to get a way to use > a specific rendering engine in different browsers. This means > the software we speak about is a piece of midleware which > runs in a browser of the users choice and is able to render the > visited page with the engine the developer decides to use. > > This would make the develeopers choose the rendering engine > and the user the browser. Isn't that freedom? > > btw, I think we could get in trouble in the near future if > we just buy what others do. I think it's more then interesting > to try to get a foot into the door and develop a middleware > which makes it possibible to let us choose rendering engines > etc. > > This yould make us much more independent from the browser > companies and give us the prower we need. > > I don't telling everything will become better and there > will be no rendering problems or bugs etc. But the idea > is really interesting. > > > Regards > Roger Ineichen > > > Christof > > > >
