Being called "underhanded" or saying that the team intentionally mislead
people isn't something that I'm comfortable with.
Rey...
Alexandre Plennevaux wrote:
Personally, i think Stephen has a point. I don't see any reason for
disappointment in this, but the min size should be taken as a reference.
On a side note, on the human level, let's not judge each other on alleged
intents ("procès d'intentions" in French). It brings nothing else than bad
feelings and is completely not constructive. And we are all here to
construct, now, aren't we?
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From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stephan Beal
Sent: vendredi 14 septembre 2007 21:43
To: jQuery (English)
Subject: [jQuery] Re: Downloading 1.2 minified, getting 46kb instead of 14kb
??!?
On Sep 14, 4:46 pm, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think "underhanded" is a little harsh and I'm not sure John Resig,
who is the one who put that up there, was attempting to do anything wrong.
Perhaps "misleading" is a better term than "underhanded", but only slighlty
so. It would be poor form to upload 1.2 and say "only 46kb", after 1.1.x's
claim to fame was "only 21kb". Everyone would think that code bloat had set
in. But claiming that jQuery is now 14k is highly misleading - it definitely
is not 14k unless the user takes (and is able to take) extra measures to
ensure that he gets that space savings.
Considering how involved you are on the list and knowing how much
effort everyone on the project puts into the jQuery, I'm a little
disappointed that you would make such remarks.
Just as disappointed as i was to see the "only partially true" link which
claims that jQuery 1.2 is 14k.
jQuery 1.2 (minified) is 46kb, and that's that. It can only be shrunk down
with extra client-side support. Not everyone has the technical know-how for
how to get it shrunk down. Not everyone has the administrative access to
change their .htaccess (and those who can may not have access to mod_deflate
or mod_gzip - my hoster doesn't offer them, for example). And those who are
running under ASP/IIS environments might not have any option at all for
compression. For them, jQuery 1.2 is 46kb. Likewise for people working from
local HTML files, without an intermediary web server.
The link on the home page claiming that jQ 1.2 is 14kb is going to cause a
large number of posts to this list, just like this thread, asking if the
size discrepancy is a bug. My answer is, "yes, it's a bug on the home page,
where it is misleadingly labeled as 14kb." That said, i'll stop responding
to those posts and will let others point the confused users to the proper
entry in the FAQ.
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