Yes, it's definitely the market that drives developers and not the other
way around.  We can have only miniscule affect on what browsers people
use.  And the ones whose minds we can change have probably already done
their homework and made their choice.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> jeremyBass
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:56 PM
> To: jQuery (English)
> Subject: [jQuery] Re: New jQuery Website...
> 
> 
> Very true... the only thing I hate is the people the go around and are
> like firefox this safari that and worse yet the one's that are like I
> won’t support IE users... get real… I’m not a big fan of the sloth we
> call Microsoft but they are slowly wising up... it's just that well...
> IE is the number one browser... and if you want to make it out here in
> the real web world, we have no choice cause you can't force a user...
> as much as I want your mama and grandma to use a better browser….
> anyways... I think I have jumped up and down enough today.. :-P
> 
> On Sep 10, 9:46 am, "Chris Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Amen to this sort of thing being a royal pain in the arse! :o(
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Rick Faircloth
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Your code demonstration is a definite strike against
> > > "incremental upgrades" in my eyes...something could break
> > > every few days.
> >
> > > Since I don't use Vista, yet, I have to wonder how many of my
> > > sites are failing on IE7 for Vista, yet performing perfectly
> > > on every XP system.
> >
> > > What a pain!
> >
> > > Rick
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of jeremyBass
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:22 AM
> > > > To: jQuery (English)
> > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: New jQuery Website...
> >
> > > > All of the versions act different... mostly due to trying to fix some
> > > > bug we are not thinking about.... but
> > > >  IE 7.0.6001.18000 (vista)
> > > > 7.0.5730.11 (xp upgraded install to sp2)
> > > > 7.0.5730.13(xp sp2 full install)
> >
> > > > they all act different...
> >
> > > > ie...
> >
> > > > if you wrote this...
> >
> > > > var agent= navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
> > > > var ver = parseInt(navigator.appVersion);
> >
> > > > var ie = agent.indexOf("msie")>=0;
> > > > var ie6=ie && agent.indexOf("msie 6")>=0;
> > > > var ie7=ie && agent.indexOf("msie 7")>=0;
> >
> > > > var ff=!ie && agent.indexOf("mozilla")>=0;
> > > > var ff2=ff && ver==4;
> > > > var ff3=ff && ver==5;
> >
> > > > if (ff3){
> > > > do somthing for ff3
> > > > } else if (ie6){
> > > > do somthing for ie6
> > > > } else if (ie7){
> > > > do somthing for ie7
> > > > }else{
> > > > not supported sorry}
> >
> > > > IE 7.0.5730.11 falls in to ie6 but IE7, 7.0.5730.13 will not
> >
> > > > where as
> > > > if (ff3){
> > > > do somthing for ff3
> > > > } else if (ie7){
> > > > do somthing for ie7
> > > > } else if (ie6){
> > > > do somthing for ie6
> > > > }else{
> > > > not supported sorry}
> >
> > > > IE 7.0.5730.11 falls in ie7 along with the rest...
> >
> > > > the joys of the web...
> > > > jeremyBass
> >
> > > > On Sep 10, 6:53 am, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Yes, I'm on IE7, 7.0.5730.13.
> >
> > > > > I'll have to check on upgrading.  But why would there be so much
> > > > > difference between 7.0.6001.18000 and the rest?  Surely there a lot
> > > > > of users using earlier versions...
> >
> > > > > Rick
> >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of jeremyBass
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:30 AM
> > > > > > To: jQuery (English)
> > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: New jQuery Website...
> >
> > > > > > I think chris would see it right as on my vista pc (IE
> > > > > > 7.0.6001.18000 ) all is fine...
> >
> > > > > > so my hunch is the largest hole is XP IE users...
> > > > > > IE 7.0.5730.11
> > > > > > IE 7.0.5730.13
> > > > > > and all of IE 6 ...
> > > > > > but i haven't check those since work eralyer today....
> > > > > > jeremyBass
> >
> > > > > > On Sep 9, 5:19 pm, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Chris.
> >
> > > > > > > Check this one in IE7.
> >
> > > > > > >http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:jQuery_For_Designers#
> >
> > > > > > > Rick- Hide quoted text -
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