brian,

> Can we lighten up now?

This is, by far, the most friendly, relaxed technical group of people
you are going to find on the Internet. I think you might be taking it
a little too personal.

If you want to add something in your application that makes it behave
in a certain way, there is nothing stopping you. To suggest that it is
a design flaw or something wrong with jQuery is invalid, regardless of
your personal crusades ;)

A few lines of code and you have exactly what you want...but there
have been plenty of valid reasons as to why what you suggest will
never be part of "core" jQuery.

-Eric

On Nov 5, 11:23 am, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a personal jihad against apps that fail silently.
>
> My jihad listens to no reason.
>
> Sure, they have valid points that make sense from the viewpoints they
> hold.  I don't share their viewpoints.  OK?
>
> Can we lighten up now?
>
> On Nov 5, 1:13 pm, ricardobeat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That 'religious' bit is a bit offensive don't you think? There are
> > good reasons for failing silently as Mike, Richard and Jeffrey have
> > pointed out. The fact you don't accept/understand them doesn't make
> > their (and mine) opinions less empirical.
>
> > - ricardo
>
> > On Nov 5, 5:10 pm, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Now $('#non-existing-id').fail().toggle() will fail,
> > > > but will work if it's not empty.
>
> > > That's actually right on the money.  Thanks.
>
> > > //Still thinks fail silently on id queries is insane, but knows a
> > > religious argument when he sees one.

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