Hi all.

I just have a question and a suggestion about this "run as" feature to be implemented. Is Subject sufficient for "run as" method? Shouldn't this method take the same things as login(), which is a security token? The reason being, that if you imagine uesrA is authenticated, and is prompted for another username and passwd (as in windows) to allow access to another part of the application. Then we can't just provide only the Subject which is just like a username. Or am I missing something here about Subject? Additionally, considering how many new laptop have the option for fingerprint reader and who knows what's next, the token can be anything, an image that can be passed to the realm to be compared.

Ok, so my suggest is that the 'run as' method take a token. I am no Ki expert, so please forgave me if I have missed some essential part of this discussion.

Thanks for Ki.

.v

Les Hazlewood wrote:
Hi Tamás,

There should _always_ be a Subject. A scheduled task or daemon process should have a subject instance as well.

That is why the security world uses the term 'Subject' instead of 'User', since 'User' generally implies a human being. 'Subject' is general in that it encompasses any state/identity information, be it a human or daemon process or whatever...

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tamás Cservenák <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi there,

    not directly related, but I have a question: all these solutions
    assume you already have a Subject.

    What about cases when it is not the case? (ie. scheduled tasks?)

    ~t~


    On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Les Hazlewood
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi JSecurity community,

        The JSecurity team will enable native support for the ability
        to assume another user's identity at runtime, aka 'Run As' or
'Switch User' functionality into the framework very soon. This allows the application to look, feel and react as if the
        current user is another user entirely, a functionality that is
        quite common in many applications.

        We're looking to the community to get feedback on what people
        prefer this be called in the API itself.  Odds are very high
        that the methods to perform this switching capability will
        reside in the Subject interface (or a sub-interface of
        Subject, we haven't decided yet).

        So, here are a few alphabetically-ordered options that seem to
        make sense (don't forget a 'principal' is just an identifying
        attribute, like a username or user id).  If you feel so
        inclined, please choose one:

        subject.assumeIdentity( Object principal );
        subject.runAs( Object principal );
        subject.switchUser( Object principal );

        Please note that whatever the naming choice, the
        implementation will retain raw traceability and auditing
        attributed to the original or 'owning' user in all cases.  You
        won't 'lose' that when executing this soon-to-be-created method.

        Thanks for any feedback!

        Les




-- Thanks,
    ~t~


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