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> ... these are good times to be a simple country programmer!
Casey:
To have life so simple is always a joy. Unfortunately,...
Thanks for posting your site and the link to your first-in-a-series article.
It presents an informative and intriguing comparison of asp to jsp.
It seems a comparison is better made between MS IIS server-side
technologies, including asp, with its limited internet server support
(principally MS IIS), to server-side Java, including jsp, which is widely
supported by most internet server platforms out there.
In case some may perceive MS bashing, I like MS tools. I've developed sw for
decades, using MS tools for a good part of that time. Among them, I develop
in MS VC++ on an NT workstation/server, and run first-tests of C++ and Java
apps on MS IIS. Yes, NT IIS is simple, easy to install and manage, but at
best, MS IIS leaves ambivalence.
MS IIS seems a little like Macintosh: a good platform without market
acceptance in important application areas. The lessons of Apple Computer
(Apple once held dominant market share) and Ashton Tate's dBase (ditto. Now,
Ashton who?) resonate. Great technologies don't die, they fade into
oblivion. (Does anyone remember Betamax, VisiCalc or VisiOn?).
The argument in favor of MS IIS is that, for "small" sites, MS IIS (asp)
holds its own in comparison to Java servers (and jsp), admitting that
server-side Java is better suited for "larger" sites. Has anyone argued
otherwise?
Ultimately, it's unimportant how capable MS IIS asp may be. Use determines
acceptance. Many dBase programmers have said, "dBase can do that," but dBase
is not used for so many "thats." Similarly, at some point, IS resources turn
away from MS IIS towards more accepted platforms. At what point does MS IIS
and asp fade into oblivion?
Your article suggests an expansive definition for a "small" site, raising a
valid question as to how small is "small." Your term "users" seems more
clearly called "client requests," since an Internet client-server "user"
usually disconnects once the request is satisfied. To call 500 simultaneous
requests a "small" site seems a bit much.
A quick run at the numbers suggests that a maximum of 500 simultaneous
client requests means that server capacity could far exceed 15 million hits
per month, 500,000 per day. Shove most NT IIS servers into this environment
would prove disappointing. The limit is one of acceptable usage.
Of course, MS wants IS managers to believe the limit is the hardware, not
the NT (Win2000) OS; perhaps they are right. Still, in my experience, MS
IIS(NT/Win2000) is not the preferred choice for high traffic machines.
Implementing asp-com technologies outside MS IIS is difficult, at best.
IS management seems to accept the concept that MS IIS is acceptable for
"small" i-server apps and most IS people feel comfortable saying Java is
superior beyond some minimally "small" size site.
One question is "How big is a "small" site?"
Another question is, "Do you want to speculate with your, or your company's,
resources on whether MS IIS will ever be accepted as suitable for serving a
rapidly expanding client base with growing client needs?"
Bill Gates says he's betting the company on his new net technologies, just
as VisiCorp once bet their company on VisiOn (Visi-what?). Do you want to
bet your project on MS IIS future, ignoring accepted MS IIS limits?
This much seems most simple: Java servers are the accepted choice for
growing sites with big-picture needs. Here, the future of MS IIS is simply
speculative.
Comments?
Phil Campbell
the-wally-project.org
-----Original Message-----
From: casey kochmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: asp v. jsp/servlet environment?
>Hello Phil
>I just recently wrote an article discussing your questions topic.
>The article is called ASP Vs JSP and it is the first of several
installments
>on this topic.
>
>You can read the article at
>http://www.jspinsider.com/articles/jspasp/jspasp1.html
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