It has been our experience also unfortunately. The admin tool is miserable
and the documentation is woefully lacking in depth and concrete examples. We
also have come across problems with servlets and JSPs that work
intermittently.
Configuration is a software development project all by itself.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hensley, Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
Talk about a headache. I do all of my development on Tomcat and it is
fairly easy to develop and deploy. However, I deploy the applications onto
iPlanet 4.1, Once I have finished the product on Tomcat(Working 100%) I
deploy it onto iPlanet and I have spent at least twice as much time
deploying the application than I have actually developing it. I have not
been very happy with iPlanet 4.1.
One thing that I found as kind of bizarre is that they don't implement the
specification as closely as they should, especially considering that SUN is
now a part of iPlanet. I have also found some kind of buggy things going on
with the server admin tool and the JSP engine. Has anyone else experienced
the same things?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sicaud Patrice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
anyone has any comment on iPLanet 4.1?
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Mak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
Yes you can deploy EJB with jRun 3. You need to purchase the Enterprise
Edition of jRun 3.0 which costs $4,995. The Professional Edition supports
JSP and servlets, but doesn't provide any EJB support.
----- Original Message -----
From: Senaka Suriyaarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
> Dear Artthur
> Can I deploy my EJB by using JRUN 3.0?
>
> BR
> Senaka
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of arthur alexander
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> Hey,
>
> How come there is no mention of Allaire's JRUN ??
>
> Very inexpensive (free for dev), the smallest, and
> super fast. It is always up to date, and has EJB
> and JMS built in.
>
> Their transaction monitor is 100% pure JAVA!
>
> -aa-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> > Resin is very fast indeed. Resin has some nice features too, that
recently
> > Orion incorporated as well. Orion in my opinion offers the best bang for
> the
> > buck. First..its free for all use except commercial use. Its a full J2EE
> > implementation app server, where as Tomcat and Resin are Servlet 2.2/JSP
> 1.1
> > containers only..no EJB support, etc. Tomcat doesn't have any fail-over
> > ability as far as I know, but the latest version may support that now.
In
> > tests, I was told Orion is the fastest overall, slightly edging Resin in
> > static and dynamic page returns (JSP pages).
> >
> > WebSphere is a crappy product from what I have heard thus far. Its very
> time
> > consuming to install, and it isn't up to date by a long shot. Even
though
> > IBM just announced $2,000,000,000 of support, their latest offering
(3.5)
> > still only supports JSP 1.0 and Servlet 2.1. That is pretty sad in my
> > opinion..seeing as how they are so devoted to Java and all.
> >
> > WebLogic is a good one, but it is very expensive (as is WebSphere). We
are
> > actually going to be using WebLogic (to my dismay..I wanted Orion) for
our
> > site. It does have a strong presence on the app server market, with
> > excellent support and help. Their documenation on their site is
extensive
> > with details on everything EXCEPT web app deployment ("root" web app
> > anyways). I am having a problem getting my web app running with
WebLogic,
> > which is a breeze to do in Orion.
> >
> > For whats its worth..if you are allowed, go with Orion. It offers the
best
> > performance I have seen, it allows "auto" source reloading to keep the
> > server up while developing, fail over, session fail over, load
balancing,
> > ejb, jndi, javamail, jsp, servlets, connection pooling, transaction
> > management (I think), and a slew of other features. For $1500 per
server,
> > its 10% of the price for WebLogic for a single cpu. If you have a quad
> > server, WebLogic will cost you $60,000. Orion costs you just $1500.
Thats
> a
> > HUGE difference in price. Especially when you start dealing with
multiple
> > servers each with 2 cpus, etc. WebLogic can easily cost in the low to
mid
> > $100K range, not including tools to develop for it, which run another
$5K
> > per seat. Orion doesn't have any tools for development, but the nice
thing
> > is you can use your favorite tool to do it all. I use KAWA myself, but
> Forte
> > is a decent one too. The next version of Forte will be much better than
> the
> > current release.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
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