Hey, I can't argue with you on those points. However, Netscape 6 is another can-of-worms....with a unique set-up that is different than the existing 4.7 as well as different from IE 5. All HTML/script developers are growning about this "additional" browser that must be handled. The number of permutations and paths in the script code will just grow even more !! That's why server-side is much safer and even more productive.....but at a cost of execution speed. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: where to learn about JSP based dynamic web > applications?-you'll be sorry ! > > > Yes but.... > > - much faster execution > - less impact on servers/network > - DOM1 standard will be implemented by Netscape 6.0 and is partially > implmented in IE 4.0 > - code is no more complex than Java > - front ends are smart > - pages do not need to be reloaded all the time. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Simms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: where to learn about JSP based dynamic web > applications?-you'll be sorry ! > > > Nothing wrong with Javascript except: > > 1) lack of consistent support by browsers > 2) changing standard > 3) complex voluminous code > 4) lack of standard code libraries > > Building anything significant with Javascript ? > > "Y O U ' l l B E S O R R Y ......" > > (remember the adage ?) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sicaud Patrice > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:19 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: where to learn about JSP based dynamic web applications? > > > > > > Andrew: > > I am interested in this thread. Can you expand on what you exactly mean? > > I have the feeling we are facing the same problem and > conceivably rolling > > our own solution(we are designing an Win Explorer-like interface using > > javascript). > > > > Patrice > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Purshottam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:02 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: where to learn about JSP based dynamic web applications? > > > > > > Recent traffic on this list has made me thing again about > > a matter that troubled me a few months ago: > > > > Where to point the bright young (and old) people who want to > > write dynamic web applications (things that look and act like windows > > MVC-based applications, but run in a browser and use javaScript, > > DHTML (esp uSoft's which is the most D) and maybe Flash or SVG)? > > > > I have not yet found a proper textbook or article that discusses this > > subject comprehensively. > > > > There are some articles and book that cover the server > > based forms and server only MVC setups like struts. And there > > are books and articles on client side dynamic web technology like > > DHTML, Flash and javaScript. But the only references I can find > > that show how to synthesize fake (fake because no proper > > firewall tolerant server->cliet notifiction exists yet) are > > the pushlets paper on JW and a couple notes from Netscape > > on DHTML. > > > > I have a rough note I wrote for some smart guys in my office. who > > were very > > troubled when they could not see explict use of sockets or other > > client server stuff in my designs, which I shall try to clean > > up when I get back to office this weekend and post. Does anyoe else > > have data or citations of publications that teach this tedious art? > > > > Andy > > > > ================================================================== > > ========= > > To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff > > JSP-INTEREST". > > Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > > > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html > > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP > > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets > > > > ================================================================== > > ========= > > To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff > > JSP-INTEREST". > > Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > > > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html > > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP > > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets > > > > ================================================================== > ========= > To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff > JSP-INTEREST". > Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets > =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets
