speaking of proven and widespread use...

do any of you know any really good large-scale, B2B implementations of JSP
with Oracle?

and if you know the architecture (common methodologies)..that would be nice
too.

for example, is it customary to place most, if not all, of your business
logic in Beans?  It seems to me that it would be the case, excluding some
weird circumstances.  How many of you are actually doing this?  Just like
the ASP/COM+ model it is recommended to place as much business logic, where
appropriate, into the COM+ layer, even though only a small percentage of
the development efforts actually do this, because of development time, and
some royal pain in the ass things with compiling/binary compatibility, web
server not releasing the object, etc...

I just want to get more background on the global infrastructure that has
been proven, and is in use.

thanks for any input.






At 12:02 PM 11/16/00 -0500, M. Simms wrote:
>As with anything "new", there are the rebels.
>I think once JSP is proven and widespread in use, the template engines will
>just die off.
>
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Pilgrim
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> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Which is the best framework WebMacro, Struts, or Tapestry?
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> >
> > Have anybody done any work with or had experience with Apache Turbine?
> >
> > http://java.apache.org/turbine/index.html
> >
> > Also I have just invested in "Web Development with Java Server Pages" book
> > by Fields & Klob , Manning. Some of these framework kits are
> > running __against__
> > grade by being alternatives to JSPs. What is the deal here? Are they being
> > anti-Sun? Won't some of these "kits" fall off the edge of the
> > earth in a year because
> > they are anti-JSP?
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> > Hi
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> > Has anyone carried out a survey , review, or detailed examination of
> > these frameworks?
> >
> >      1) WebMacro
> >      2) Jakarta Struts
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> > I am interested if they work with Java Server Pages
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