WebLogic 6 is very nice..but very expensive. You have to pay $2500 per
developer with a 3-connection limit. That alone blows my mind. I would think
at $17K per cpu per server, they would at least give development licenses
away. While their product is really good, I imagine the reason they are #1
is because alot of companies believe big money means good quality, which
isn't the case..there are plenty of free and cheap app servers that offer
every bit of good quality and relability as WebLogic does. JBoss, Orion App
Server, Tomcat, Resin to name a few. There are others as well.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Makoviney
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?(BEA
> WEBLOGIC ?)
>
>
> Anyone familiar with BEA WebLogic Server?
>
> www.bea.com
>
> They are coming over for a demo soon. . .would like to hear your thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> DM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Duffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?
>
>
> As someone else said..are you looking for JSP/Servlet engine
> only? Or do you
> plan to move to EJB as well? I think overall Orion app server
> (www.orionserver.com) is a hard to beat product given its performance,
> price, ease of setting up, full J2EE implementation, and so on. Resin is a
> very good jsp/servlet engine without the middle-tier
> capabilities. JRun 3.0
> isn't bad either as a servlet/jsp engine. Tomcat is decent and its free. I
> thinkt he combo of Tomcat 4 (when it comes out) and JBoss will be hard to
> beat. They are both open-source free products and there is tight
> integration
> via Tomcat 4 and JBoss 2. JBoss 2 is a great EJB app server that is very
> scalable and has a full featured plugin capability, as well as is built
> around the JMX for administration of just about everything. Tomcat 4,
> although I haven't read anything on it other than on the JBoss
> page, is said
> to have direct JVM integration with JBoss 2, which will make EJB
> calls from
> Servlets much faster than the other method..over the network. I
> believe this
> is only if you run Tomcat and JBoss on the same server though.
>
> WebLogic 6 is nice, but at $17,000 per cpu per server, its far from
> affordable. I also find it a pain in the rear to develop with..mainly
> because it takes about a minute to restart. Our web-app isn't taking
> advantage of hot-deploy though..so its possible we don't need to
> restart it
> and it would be much faster.
>
> WebSphere..bah..they are behind the times. Being that IBM is so active in
> the Java community I am really surprised their app server is such
> a beast to
> work with and does not yet support Servlet 2.2/JSP 1.1 (unless a
> new version
> came out recently that does). I would think they would be up on top of the
> list of J2EE supporters.
>
> iPlanet is another one to watch as it is directly from Sun (via
> the Netscape
> alliance). However, at $25,000 per cpu per server, it is the most
> expensive
> one, and seems to have alot of problems still.
>
> I personally use Orion for development because it is so fast, including
> restarting it. Orion and Resin are the only two servlet/jsp engines (Orion
> being a full fledged J2EE app server all in one) that support a nice
> development feature in which you point a "source" dir to your source, and
> every time you make a change in ANY class, it will save, recompile and
> reload the web-app for you. Most other app servers and servlet engines
> simply reload servlets that are in the servers classpath. Orion
> and Resin go
> a step further.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ZHU Jia
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 4:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?
> >
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > we have used Perl/CGI for years in our company, now we are
> > considering switch
> > to JSP/Servlet. I've had some early experiments with JSP (Tomcat
> > 3.2) and I'm
> > convinced that this is better than CGI.
> > Now my question is which JSP Engine/Java Application Server
> > should we use in
> > our production environment? I only tried out Tomcat, it's OK and
> > it's free,
> > but is there anything better out there, considering the
> stability/ease of
> > configuration/feature/price?
> > Any hints or tips will be highly appreciated, and many thanks
> in advance!
> >
> > regards
> > ZHU Jia
> >
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