Well, based on the amount of commits I would say that the current development 
process doesn't work :-/. 

That's why I don't really care - if you're willing to do the work, branch all 
you want! :-D

/Janne

On Mar 11, 2011, at 15:32 , Dave Wolf wrote:

> @Janne: I was simply answering Florian's question as to my reasoning for the
> development trunk. Obviously, the current develop process works and so we
> shouldn't change it and I do agree with you regarding the merging,
> definitively a PITA.
> 
> Dave Wolf
> 
> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life that
> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Janne Jalkanen 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you really want, go ahead, - but be aware that all of our automated
>> build systems assume trunk. Also, merging stuff with svn is a real PITA,
>> which is why I'd like to avoid the creation of new branches.
>> 
>> /Janne
>> 
>> On 11 Mar 2011, at 07:03, Dave Wolf wrote:
>> 
>>> @Florian: Having a branch for development work really puts a strong focus
>> on
>>> what will be included in the associated release and the trunk remains the
>>> overall code repository. At the end of the release, tags are created as
>>> appropriate and the branch is merged into the trunk. Either way will
>> work.
>>> In the organizations where I've worked over the past few years, we've
>> only
>>> performed our development work in release / functionality specific
>> branches.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> @Janne: Shall I create saved-src/WebContent/.. &
>> saved-tests/WebContent/...
>>> directories for the two JSPs (FCK.jsp & TestMigratorForm.jsp)?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave Wolf
>>> 
>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life
>> that
>>> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Janne Jalkanen <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, the more stuff we can get rid off the better.  But I'd still keep
>> it
>>>> in the trunk.
>>>> 
>>>> /Janne
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dave Wolf wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe we should move classes, JSPs, etc that are not part of the
>>>> supported
>>>>> part of the release under a "saved-src" directory. That way it will be
>>>>> easier for new developers to know what is in / out and plus it might
>>>> reduce
>>>>> the scope when debugging.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another thought, should we create a 3.0 branch and then merge back to
>> the
>>>>> truck after 3.0 is working and out?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave Wolf
>>>>> H: 303-377-9537
>>>>> M: 303-956-9106
>>>>> 
>>>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life
>>>> that
>>>>> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Harry Metske <[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you are correct, I saw that same JSP compile error (at least the first
>>>>>> one).
>>>>>> I'm not sure but there have been discussions on the inclusion of a
>>>> wysiwyg
>>>>>> editor that were not resolved yet.
>>>>>> So FCK is probably not considered part of core JSPWiki until someone
>> is
>>>>>> willing to give some support on it.
>>>>>> JSPWiki can work without it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have not seen the error in TestMigratorForm.jsp (I think I have
>>>> ignored
>>>>>> it).
>>>>>> I did run the unit tests:
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~metskem/tests/junit-noframes.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2011/3/9 Dave Wolf <[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell these are legitimate compilation errors. Is it
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> that the jsp compilation doesn't have FCK.jsp in its path? I can
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>> understand why you might wouldn't pre-compile the test JSPs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The first issue is is in templates/default/editors/FCK.jsp, line 51:
>>>>>>> TemplateManager.addResourceRequest( context, "script",
>>>>>>> "scripts/fckeditor/fckeditor.js" );
>>>>>>> The method addResourceRequest doesn't appear to be in TemplateManager
>>>>>> (nor
>>>>>>> its parent: ModuleManager).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The next issue is in tests/etc/TestMigratorForm.jsp, line 25:
>>>>>>> It is referencing a non-existent page
>>>>>> (templates/default/LoginContent.jsp)
>>>>>>> or at least it is non-existing in the trunk. It existed in the 2.8
>>>> branch
>>>>>>> tho.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The third issue was an eclipse configuration issue, which I've fixed
>>>> for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Dave Wolf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a
>> life
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Janne Jalkanen <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My trunk works, btw - could be that there's some hidden setup that
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>> to be on my machine but not yours?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /Janne
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2011, at 20:30 , Harry Metske wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> as far as I know there is nothing missing, can you be a bit more
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>> Running "ant war" on the trunk (v3.0.0-svn-224) gives me a proper
>> war
>>>>>>>> file,
>>>>>>>>> that I can deploy on Tomcat and I can point my browser to the
>> JSPWiki
>>>>>>>> URL.
>>>>>>>>> (after that it stops, because the trunk is simple not working).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Running the junit tests gives me 2 failures and 1 error (out of
>> 1029
>>>>>>>> tests).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2011/3/8 Dave Wolf <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are there some files that need to be checked in?  There were
>> several
>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>> errors. it appears that LoginContext.jsp is missing or the
>> reference
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> is out of date.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave Wolf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Florian Holeczek <
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the correct one is the trunk ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Dave Wolf" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> CC: "Florian Holeczek" <[email protected]>, "Janne Jalkanen" <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. März 2011 05:32:16
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Releasing 3.0.0-alpha...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Florian,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! I'm glad to help out however I can. I thought maybe I'd
>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> getting the unit tests to work. So, I checked out the 2.8 branch
>> --
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>> like I should have gone for either the stripes or jcr branch
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> just noticed that the package listed in the test report attached
>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>>>>>> is the new org.apache.wiki.* package -- obviously not a match
>> with
>>>>>>> 2.8.
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>> base.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if I'm looking at the right Subversion repository? It
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA that there isn't much to do prior to releasing a v 3.0 alpha
>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there another branch somewhere that I'm missing?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Wolf
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for
>> a
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>>> that is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson
>>>>>>> Mandela
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Florian Holeczek <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, and welcome back!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to read that there are some people willing to contribute.
>>>>>> Seems
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> there's still lack of people who can coordinate the release, as
>>>>>> Janne
>>>>>>>>>>> describes it. Well, never done that before, but I would be ready
>> to
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't be that hard, since Apache's documentation seems to be
>> quite
>>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not very deep into the codebase, but I can at least give a
>> top
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>> view. The two major changes in 3.0 are
>>>>>>>>>>> * front end uses the Stripes framework, mainly done by Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>> * back end uses the Java Content Repository interface (JSR-170),
>>>>>>> mainly
>>>>>>>>>>> done by Janne
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess the easiest way to start is to dig into the codebase and
>> have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> at the open JIRA issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Dave Wolf" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> CC: "Janne Jalkanen" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. März 2011 02:28:57
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Releasing 3.0.0-alpha...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would be willing to get involved again and contribute to the
>> code
>>>>>>>> base.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the late response, I've been away for a while ('er
>> years)
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> had the messages getting filtered. I should have a bit of time to
>>>>>>>> devote
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> JSPWiki. I'm pretty far out of the loop tho.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What (Java) issues might I focus on first?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Wolf
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for
>> a
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is less than the one you are capable of living." --Nelson Mandela
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Janne Jalkanen
>>>>>>>>>>> < [email protected] >wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 08:38 , Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So ignoring some paperwork, it seems that the only thing
>> blocking
>>>>>>> TLP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a release, and the only thing blocking a release (in JIRA)
>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of failing unit tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0 is quite useless atm though...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, since our community seems a bit subdued these days (I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> current committers have other responsibilities weighing heavily
>> on
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulders), who would volunteer to run through the release
>>>>>> process?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be a good time for people to step up and say if they
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> continued interest in JSPWiki and are willing to help. We need
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> can coordinate the release, and others who are willing to
>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> codebase.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Janne
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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