Michael, most of the work on the 2 major changes have been done already. 1) JCR backend (Janne) 2) Stripes based frontend (Andrew) The problem now is that none of the developers seem to have any time at all to devote to jspwiki and finish off what we started. If one of us had some time and skills to do the remaining graduation points it should not have to take that long. We could do the 3.0.0-alpha release fairly easy (but the resulting JSPWiki would not work).
Janne and Andrew can give you the best answers on the question why these 2 major changes were done. A few goals of these moves are : * more flexible frontend * scalable wiki (although JCR only is not enough for that) * profit from more metadata capabilities offered by JCR Here is some more general background anyway: http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/ApacheJSPWikiProposal But I do think that you are right that these massive changes were not on user request, but driven by developers. Taking the 2.8.5 and just renaming the packages would not be enough for an official Apache release though. We would at least have to check all the graduation issues ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&jqlQuery=fixVersion+%3D+Graduating+AND+project+%3D+JSPWIKI ) Any comments of the other devs welcome..... kind regards, Harry 2011/12/21 Michael Gerzabek <[email protected]> > Lurking on this list for some time now. Wondering what's going on. Doing > this because JSPWiki used to be a very helpful and proper way of doing > things the web 2.0 way. Having also programmed a couple of plugins. > Don't mind .. > > I wonder why you burden yourself with so much work to make an > 3.0.0-alpha release? Is it really necessary or does it make it > undoable? What does it mean that people doing tons of work for versions > up to 2.8.4 stay busy for .. let's say two years? Why program a > completely new backend when the filesystem provider was so handy? Why do > a new design if the current one is clean and proper? I choose JSPWiki > because of the simple versioning mechanism on the file system. Whenever > I wanted I could use the stupid but standard! win editor to look into > revisions .. I thought this was a feature! I choose JSPWiki because of > its clear and easy adoptable design .. I thought this was a feature! .. > > Anyway. My question is this. The JIRA says that the renaming of the > packages to org.apache.blah is done and the issue is closed - which > means accepted by the community as correct resolution. Wouldn't that be > enough to release a 3.0.0-RC1 as graduation release - which would in > fact be a 2.8.5 release. Further state that fact on the website, draw a > clear finish/starting line and attract new users as long as not any > lurkers are lost? Then start a discussion on what's REALLY needed, be it > a new look & feel or a super-duper-backend or just bugfixes under the > Apache feather. > > A hint on that domain would be: ask the users. They might see things > different .. > > my 2 cents, > Michael > > > Am 21/12/2011 21:02, schrieb Florian Holeczek: > > Hi Sam, > > > > sorry, was simply too busy... > > > > According to our issue tracking database, only the following tasks need > to be done for graduating: > > > > * Release 3.0.0-incubating-alpha-1 > > * IPMC vote to graduate > > * Prepare a charter > > > > This shouldn't be a big deal. Looking at your link, one further (and > probably main) issue is "Demonstrate an active and diverse development > community". > > This had already discussed on the list, too. All committers still seem > to be quite busy, however AFAIK basically still willing to contribute. > > > > Any advice and/or opinions? > > > > Regards > > Florian > > > > > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > > Von: "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> > > An: [email protected] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2011 14:37:54 > > Betreff: Re: What steps need to be taken to graduate from the incubator? > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Florian Holeczek <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello Sam, > >> > >> not many, AFAIK an Apache release and some community vote for > graduation. > >> I will have a closer look at this next week when I have some days off. > > Ping? > > > >> Regards > >> Florian > > - Sam Ruby > > > >> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >> Von: "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> > >> An: [email protected] > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. November 2011 14:36:56 > >> Betreff: What steps need to be taken to graduate from the incubator? > >> > >> For reference, here is a handy list: > >> > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements > >> > >> - Sam Ruby > >
