>From the vantage point of someone who is inactive with the project, but
also the principal author of the Stripes MVC integration:
- Stripes had several goals, chiefly to (1) refactor the JSP scriptlet code
out of the JSPs and into proper JavaBeans ("ActionBeans" in Stripes
parlance)
- Simplify JSP markup and input validation (replace HTML form tags with
Stripes equivalents)
- Replace the "command pattern" extensions to WikiContext, introduced in
the 2.8 range, with something saner (the ActionBeans)
- Create a more solid back-end interface for managing JSON requests from
browsers
Almost all of the forms porting was done, plus or minus a few things. I was
pretty happy with how it turned out. There is some wickedly clever JSON
processing in there (via the Interceptor classes) that was barely tapped;
it would have radically simplified a lot of Dirk's code. Yes, Stripes is
another framework, but it's pretty lightweight; and much, much lighter than
Spring, for example. On the flip side, it's not in widespread use; indeed,
Spring has pretty much steamrollered over most of the other JEE frameworks,
even as lots of dev energy has left the Java world entirely.
One more thing about 3.0. I added in some pretty solid code for integrating
with LDAP and AD for authentication, group access controls, etc. This could
be re-used in the 2.9 codebase pretty easily, with a little light
refactoring.
Whether the team wishes to use the rest of 3.0 code (including Stripes) is,
of course, up to the team. If I can be a resource/mentor, let me know.
Andrew
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Florian Holeczek <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi Ichiro,
>
> well, that's basically it - more than enough I'd say, since these two are
> really big points. You can have a look at www.jspwiki.org, there are some
> pages on 3.0, too.
>
> Regards
> Florian
>
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> Von: "Ichiro Furusato" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2012 23:53:08
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] How to proceed with the 3.0 efforts
>
> For those of us who've not followed the 3.0 progress (or lack thereof),
> could
> someone provide a very brief synopsis?
>
> My understanding is that the 2.8.x branch is fully functional and
> basically an
> update of the com.ecyrd.jspwiki code in Apache packaging, and that the 3.0
> branch was an attempt to rewrite the backend using Janne's JSR-170 subset,
> but that hasn't moved forward. I didn't know about any plans for Stripes.
> But
> this is all just a guess based on:
>
> A new effort is started to graduate with a 2.9 codebase (based on 2.8),
> so no JCR backend and no Stripes, but the traditional JSPWiki, the
> progress can still be followed at our JIRA issue tracker.
>
> [I'm frankly happy with the "traditional" 2.8/2.9 code base as it's
> compatible with a substantial number of extant projects and plugins.
> I'd prefer JSPs over Stripes, or anything that adds complication.]
>
> If there's a web page describing the goals of 3.0, a reference would
> be good. The JIRA roadmap isn't that helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ichiro
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Florian Holeczek <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > sooner or later we will have to decide on how to proceed with the 3.0
> > efforts (available in the JSPWIKI_3_0_BRANCH).
> > The discussion already started on a different thread (see below), but I
> > think it's a good idea to explicitly continue it on a new thread.
> >
> > @Harry: I fully agree with your mail cited below.
> > Though I wish it was different, I personally have little hope on reviving
> > 3.0 without the help of Janne and Andrew, which seems unlikely at least
> in
> > the medium term.
> >
> > What do the others think, especially Janne and Andrew?
> >
> > Regards
> > Florian
> >
> >
> > -------- original message --------
> > Subject: Re: [jira] [Commented] (JSPWIKI-713) Creating a page doesn't
> work
> > on 3.0
> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 12:12:59 +0100
> > From: Harry Metske <[email protected]>
> > Reply to: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Agree with that statement. But let's then decide what to do with 3.0
> stuff.
> > My main objection is that it is cluttering up our JIRA issue list, and it
> > is misleading people.
> >
> > If anyone of us still has some hope on reviving 3.0 then I'm OK with
> > leaving things as they are at the moment.
> >
> > regards,
> > Harry
> >
>
