Hi Peter,

Thanks for the bon appetit! I'm in Italy, so free pizza is even better :)

I do NOT use (nor believe in, but I could be convinced) any Swing designers.
I wrote all of my Swing code by hand, using the designer in JBuilder (still
out there somewhere) to figure out how to do certain things layout-wise. I
don't know the state-of-the-art regarding Swing designers (nor have I ever
looked at Netbeans for anything but straight code/refactoring/SVN), but my
opinion from what I've seen is that it's hard going. Real code always causes
designers to break. (Irrelevant but noteworthy: .Net winforms designer in
VS2005 or 2008 is great, and can handle your code moving forward).

Out of curiosity: what is wrong with the initComponent? It's probably called
by the constructor, and if not, you can always make it public...

That said, if I were to do any Java projects right now, I would take a
serious look at whether the UI could be done with QT or something. *Not sure
if that would jive with the Swing stuff that JSynth is already using.*

Best,
Daniel


On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Peter Geirnaert
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Daniel Rosenstark <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello all:
>
>
>>
>> About a year ago I started with JSynth and then ended up giving up and
>> creating my product as a standalone Java app (
>> www.confusionists.com/handsonic). Now I've given up on hardware entirely,
>> so
>> I'm out of the JSynth game completely. Which is not really relevant :)
>> (BTW,
>> the product receives tons of downloads and I've even made enough to buy a
>> few pizzas in the last year.)
>
>
> Good luck and 'bon apetit' ;-)
>
> Regarding the Java question, I just wanted to plug Netbeans[snip]
>
>
>
> I see the Netbeans (6.0.1) GUI builder is using private void
> initComponents() { ... }
> to initialize forms.
> That's probably not a good idea, to start using the Netbeans way of
> building a GUI for a JSynthLib driver.
> Also, I couldn't find the Widgets provided by JSynthLib, only DKnob seemed
> available,
> to import in the 
> 'palette'<http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqFormUsingCustomComponent>.
> Some tools for building the GUI in an IDE would be handy imho.
> For now, I'm just using Gimp <http://www.gimp.org> and it's layers to sketch
> a lay-out <http://spd-11.wikispaces.com/file/view/PatchEditorGUI-3.png>for my 
> Roland SPD-11 driver.
> A .zip containing .png pics of the components made available by JSynthLib
> would be easy to get started quick (using photoshop or gimp).
>
> I don't know if I should start a JSynthLib topic on 
> java-forums<http://www.java-forums.org/>or
> sun-java-forums <http://forums.sun.com/> or ask my questions here,
> actually, after finishing my driver project, I can imagine I wouldn't go
> looking again for answers to questions posted on this list. But Java lovers
> (or how should I call them) on a java forum might do some research for
> newbies simply out of interest for Java code.
>
>
>
>>
>> Best of luck,
>> Daniel
>>
>
> Again, good luck to you too, I hope your few pizzas will taste very good.
> Peter
>
>
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