Darn... I knew I should have spoke up sooner. $90K for shutting up. I would have done it for $10K.
DOH! I have an opinion on this topic, but don't have time to defend it so I'll take a big dose of "shut up". Nick, I was up your way working on a Tapestry project (a few weeks ago). I've been doing some Tapestry work on the side while doing JSF/Facelets/Spring/Hibernate(iBatis too) for my regular gig. I also updated our Tapestry course to Tapestry 4.0. TTYL --Rick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lesiecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:27 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Net Neutrality (techno-political) Hahahahaha! Will it be tax free? nick On Jun 20, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Jon Thomas wrote: > Nick > When you get home there will be $90k in your freezer. Now please > shut up. > :-) > > On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Nick Lesiecki wrote: > >> The worst part is, this will be bad for business in the long run! >> Just imagine if every new Friendster, MySpace, delicious, or what >> have you had to sign over big money to AT&T just to get their >> websites seen. The web has launched 1000s of new businesses, some >> of them wildly successful and good for everybody, including AT&T. >> Why does congress want to suppress the most innovative thing to >> happen in America in the last few decades? >> >> Nick >> >> >> On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Chad Woolley wrote: >> >>> Took me about 2 minutes to call McCain and Kyl - because I had the >>> numbers right in the email. >>> >>> Never underestimate the power of big money, soulless corporate >>> entities, and their lobbyists to spread corruption and evil. I for >>> one definitely don't mind getting stuff like this on the list. We >>> need information, cooperation and action to fight the widespread >>> ignorance in America and make a change. >>> >>> -- Chad >>> >>> On 6/15/06, Andrew Lenards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> I spoked with Senator Kyl's office and left a message for Senator >>>> McCain. Took all of 5 minutes to do. I hope others are >>>> calling. I'm >>>> quite shocked this made it out of the House. >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> On 6/14/06, Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > Heed Tom's words, get educated, and please let your senators >>>> know how >>>> > you feel! Those of us living in the bay area can usually count >>>> on our >>>> > representatives to be pro-sensible-internet-policy. It would >>>> help if >>>> > Arizona's senators also knew that their constituents care. >>>> > >>>> > Keep in mind that "ability to pay" may not be the only >>>> criteria that >>>> > these big companies use when deciding who gets "advanced" >>>> service and >>>> > who gets "molasses service". >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Nick >>>> > On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Thomas Hicks wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Dear Fellow JUG members, >>>> > > >>>> > > As technologists, we often have the luxury of avoiding >>>> political >>>> > > issues. >>>> > > Unfortunately, however, one of the founding principles of the >>>> > > Internet, >>>> > > Network Neutrality, is currently under seige by lawmakers. Big >>>> > > telecomm >>>> > > and ISP companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast are spending >>>> > > millions to >>>> > > lobby lawmakers to let them prioritize network traffic based >>>> on the >>>> > > sender's >>>> > > ability to pay. Possible problems and actual abuses under >>>> such a >>>> > > system >>>> > > are listed at: >>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/=threat#abuse >>>> > > >>>> > > The fear that gutting Network Neutrality will pose serious >>>> problems >>>> > > for >>>> > > small, non-profit organizations (such as the Tucson JUG), >>>> has lead >>>> > > a huge >>>> > > diversity of organizations to support renewing the principle >>>> as law: >>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/=coalition >>>> > > >>>> > > Last Thursday, the House, including our representative Jim >>>> Kolbe, >>>> > > voted to kill Network Neutrality. He and a majority of >>>> others in >>>> > > the house also >>>> > > voted against the (pro-neutrality) Markey Net Neutrality >>>> > > Amendment . Hopes now >>>> > > turn to the Senate where our senators: >>>> > > >>>> > > Senator John McCain >>>> > > Phone: 202-224-2235 >>>> > > Senator Jon Kyl >>>> > > Phone: 202-224-4521 >>>> > > >>>> > > will have the chance to consider this question and the >>>> chance to >>>> > > protect Net Neutrality >>>> > > by supporting the bipartisan Snowe-Dorgan Internet Freedom >>>> > > Preservation Act (S. 2917). >>>> > > >>>> > > Should you feel that this issue is of importance to your >>>> job, your >>>> > > blog, your JUG, >>>> > > your favorite causes, or merely your sanity, you may find these >>>> > > additional links helpful: >>>> > > >>>> > > summary of the issue: >>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq >>>> > > >>>> > > find out more: >>>> > > http://www.savetheinternet.com/ >>>> > > >>>> > > petition your representatives: >>>> > > http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/ >>>> > > >>>> > > regards, >>>> > > -tom hicks >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> jug.org >>>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> jug.org >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> jug.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]