Gratis tidak selalu free dan free tidak selalu gratis. Gratis = no money, free = freedom.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Hendro Steven <[email protected]> wrote: > > > apakah Java SDK Sun tidak gratis lagi?? > :( > > ---- > Y! : hendro_steven > http://hendrosteven.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Frans Thamura <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Frans Thamura <[email protected]> > Subject: [JUG-Indonesia] Fwd: OpenJDK projects promoting proprietary builds > To: "jug-indonesia" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:45 AM > > Java SDK dari Sun ternyata dibuild propietary > > wah wah wah.. > > F > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Wielaard <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:31 AM > Subject: Re: OpenJDK projects promoting proprietary builds > To: Andrew John Hughes <gnu_and...@member. fsf.org> > Cc: disc...@openjdk. java.net > > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 22:10 +0100, Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> I agree wholeheartedly, but have to say I long ago ceased to be >> surprised by Sun builds beinge proprietary. Sadly the converse is >> true; I'd be surprised by a Sun build released under the same terms as >> our IcedTea builds. > > And that is indeed what is sad about this. That it seems OpenJDK builds > are actually Sun builds, and by extension such things are proprietary. > And that is what I object to. OpenJDK builds should be just that, > OpenJDK builds distributed under the (GPL) terms everybody in our > community adheres to. > > If a project wants to publish "early access" builds then they really > should if they feel people would like to play with the bits. But such > builds should follow the standard OpenJDK project rules > (http://openjdk. java.net/ legal/) that everybody else also uses. > > Going to Sun legal and requesting alternative proprietary terms and then > publishing the code and binaries under non-free software licenses is > just bad for creating a community. It is bad enough that the current SCA > rules around OpenJDK assign all rights to one commercial party, Sun. But > projects then abusing those rights by pushing proprietary derivatives as > early access OpenJDK project builds undermines the whole community of > equals. > > You are right that we have IcedTea to fix that. If you get your packages > through IcedTea (derivatives) you are guaranteed that it truly is Free > Software. But wouldn't it be better if we could say that about OpenJDK > itself? Wouldn't that make the community stronger? > > Cheers, > > Mark > > -- > -- > Frans Thamura > Meruvian. Java and Enterprise OSS > > Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 > Blog & Profile: http://frans. thamura.info > > We provide services to migrate your apps to Java (web), in amazing > fast and reliable. > >
