what a brave statement. sebaiknya baca dulu fitur2 mysql yang ga standard, seperti bermacam-macam data storage, in memory database, etc. ini lebih masalah pilihan dari team development google, ketimbang belum ada database yang scale up to google scale.
2009/8/2 Andrian Kurniady <andr...@kurniady.net> > > > Kalo menurut saya sih, > > NoSQL (bigtable) itu diciptakan karena MySQL gak scalable up to the "Google > scale", jadi ya feature "SQL" dikorbankan untuk menciptakan database yang > support scalability feature macem sharding, performance, efisiensi, > distribution, etc. > > Suatu saat kalo MySQL udah bisa scalable up to the scale juga nggak ada > esensinya lagi make yang NoSQL (they will converge at some point, but not in > the very near future). > > -Kurniady > > Note: the opinions posted above my personal opinion, and not of my employer > whatsoever. > > 2009/8/2 Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org> > > >> >> ini berita bagus :) >> >> sql atau no sql akan co exist >> >> dan saling mengisi karena tujuan yang berbeda masing2 >> >> nosql itu query languagenya pake apa ya >> >> -- >> Frans Thamura >> Meruvian. Java and Enterprise OSS >> >> Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 >> Blog & Profile: http://frans.thamura.info >> >> We provide services to migrate your apps to Java (web), in amazing >> fast and reliable. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:07 PM, >> abangkis<abang...@gmail.com<abangkis%40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> > Hi, sorry. Bukan bermaksud membangkitkan thread lama untuk nge-flame. >> > >> > Kebetulan lagi persiapan kerjaan kantor, terus ketemu issue ini. Jadi >> > cari-cari bahan buat persiapan. Lengkapnya ada di : >> > >> > >> http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/relational-databases-are-dead-who-knew-022 >> > >> > some quote : >> > >> > For example: >> > >> > FaceBook, for instance, created its Cassandra data store in-house >> > to replace its use of MySQL... >> > >> > In reality, a reader comments: >> > >> > Facebook is still MySQL backed and uses Cassandra for only >> > specific things and that they use many different technologies where >> > they're good (like heavy use of memcached as a key-value store to >> > reduce load on MySQL where queries aren't needed). >> > >> > >> > Intinya sih sama : jaman dimana database jadi swiss-army knife untuk >> > segala macam urusan data telah berakhir. Tetapi tiap teknologi memang >> > memiliki keunggulan dan spesifik kegunaannya masing2. Bagi perusahaan2 >> > seperti google, facebook, dll. mungkin cocok menggunakan NoSQL. Tapi >> > bagi perusahaan top fortune 500 yang lain mungkin engga. >> > >> > Bagi kita2, disaat butuh, toh tinggal implement. Mungkin info-nya >> > berguna kalo ada yang suka ngangkat isu2 disaat makan siang. Dari pada >> > beradu FUD, lebih baik tahu context keadaan sebenarnya :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Frans >> > Thamura<fr...@meruvian.org<frans%40meruvian.org>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Setuju. Sama dg java. Udah susah ganti. Apalagi yg udah pake. Foxpro >> dari >> >> gue sma sampe sekarang masih, malah sepupui saya masih pegang foxpro di >> bca >> >> yg konon java abis, VB yg dipush out masih 20 % lebih, oracle yg bilang >> no >> >> feature for oracle form juga tetap buanyak yg pake, odtug event form >> malah >> >> makin rame dari usa only jadi 27 negara yg datang. >> >> >> >> Tapi yg ala map reduce atau vedelmort adalah masa depan >> >> Frans Thamura >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Thomas Wiradikusuma >> >> <wiradikusuma.mi...@gmail.com<wiradikusuma.milis%40gmail.com> >> > >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:50:20 >> >> To: <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com <jug-indonesia%40yahoogroups.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] NoSQL Event >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:27 AM, andry wrote: >> >>> For any enterprise application that I know of, you can easily beat >> >>> that number. >> >> >> >> my clients are mostly business entities but they don't have that >> >> awesomeness, yet they require enterprise features (security, audit, >> >> reliability, i could go on). >> >> SQL is doing fine for them. >> >> >> >> and, oh, you might be surprised to see how many big companies are >> >> using SQL :) >> >> (tip: Oracle sells SQL DB and they make a fortune, meaning the market >> >> is huge) >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- >> >> salam hangat, >> >> Thomas Wiradikusuma >> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wiradikusuma >> >> Blog: http://www.jroller.com/wiradikusuma >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Thomas Wiradikusuma >> >>> <wiradikusuma.mi...@gmail.com <wiradikusuma.milis%40gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> but most of our businesses (in any part of the world, i guess), we're >> >>> yet to reach such number. and for that (R)DB is still ok. >> >>> i think boss can wait 1 hour to 1 day delay for OLAP, using either >> >>> SQL/ >> >>> non-SQL solutions :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Kalau mau keluar dari mailing list ini, caranya kirim sebuah email ke >> >> jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com<jug-indonesia-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com> >> . >> >> >> >> Jangan lupa, website JUG Indonesia adalah http://www.jug.or.id >> >> >> >> Yahoo! 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